Linux-Hardware Digest #226, Volume #14 Mon, 22 Jan 01 18:13:04 EST
Contents:
Re: Swap size / Memory upgrade (ekk)
Re: Swap size / Memory upgrade (ekk)
Re: Linux on Sequent S2000 (jwk)
Re: Swap size / Memory upgrade (ekk)
Re: [Advice]: Multi-Modem for a Small ISP (Youngert)
Re: To all linux user...... (Harlan Grove)
Re: changing motherboards ("s. eckloff")
Re: Attention Harry or anyone... I don't have this command....... (Harry George)
Re: Grecord alternative? (Karl-Heinz Herrmann)
Re: drivers for linksys etherfast 10/100 (Harry George)
How to save xvidtune settings? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: MPEG-2 decoder (Jarl Friis)
Re: [HELP]: LS-120 Setup as Floppy /dev/fd0 (Noble Pepper)
Re: How to save xvidtune settings? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Please tell me your motherboard name if it works properly in Linux (Perry Pip)
DVD decoder: software vs. hardware ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: HOW DO I INSTALLED WVDIAL??????? (Mark Dickie)
Re: How to save xvidtune settings? (Frank Sweetser)
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From: ekk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Swap size / Memory upgrade
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 14:57:51 -0500
I appreciate your thorough response.
Ken
>
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From: ekk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Swap size / Memory upgrade
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 14:58:56 -0500
I like your analogy! That helps alot-
Ken
Steve Wolfe wrote:
> > Thanks, Jamess for your advice. The person whose job I inherited told me
> > that the swap space should be double the amount of RAM for up to 512 MB,
> > 1.5x for 512 - 1024, and 1x for above 1024 MB.
>
> Ideally, you should have more RAM than you'll use, and some swap for a
> backup. If you don't have that much RAM, then your RAM + swap should be
> more than you'll use, and then some for safety. If you regularly use a half
> gig of swap, then having a gig total (perhaps more) would be a good idea -
> but I hate to think of the performance at that point. With RAM getting
> cheaper and cheaper, I'm of the opinion that swap is simply there for
> extremely abnormal situations.
>
> > I'm not terribly sure why he
> > thought so much swap was required, but I think he arrived at those ratios
> > through experience dealing with many different machines and RAM amounts.
>
> No, he just read them. "rules of thumb" on swap are about as useful as
> saying "Oh, a size 12 ought to fit any woman that's between 50 and 150
> pounds." Like women, each machine (and it's uses/needs) are different, and
> need individual consideration.
>
> > The machines he set up are stable and rarely get bogged down, as long as
> the
> > users don't push them over the RAM!
>
> There you go, his magic numbers for swap haven't helped. You're still
> stuch in the fact that swap is a few hundred (or thousand) times slower than
> RAM. If your machine is swapping, you're hamstrung. If not, you're OK.
>
> steve
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jwk)
Subject: Re: Linux on Sequent S2000
Date: 22 Jan 2001 20:21:25 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 22 Jan 2001 14:07:35 -0000, JP
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>jwk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
>> Does it have a floppy drive? Then you could try a boot-disk and see what
>> hardware is recognized.
>
>I could possibly get one on but may not be able to boot from floppy on that
>hardware. Could be worth a try though...
>
>Does the linux kernel see VME devices??
>
VME? I seem to remember that as a very old type of bus, almost before
isa and eisa, right?
I don't think so.
Good luck,
Jurriaan
--
hundred-and-one symptoms of being an internet addict:
198. You read all the quotes at Netaholics Anonymous and keep thinking
"What's wrong with that?"
GNU/Linux 2.4.0-ac10 SMP 2x1402 bogomips load av: 0.00 0.01 0.00
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From: ekk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Swap size / Memory upgrade
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 15:07:17 -0500
I appreciate everyone's helpfulness. My faith in newsgroups has been restored
(after being squashed by the first response to my posting)
Thanks-
Ken
Martin Eriksson wrote:
> Linux will not put data on the swap disk until main memory get full. Why
> people recommend as much swap as memory is uncomprehendable to me. Maybe in
> some critical servers where you just CANT let processes die because of
> memory shortage.
>
> But for example, if ONE instantiation of a program uses 1GB RAM... you
> should count on the event that accidentally TWO such processes start, and
> thus will use 2GB RAM. Then you would want to have 1.5GB swap "just in
> case".
>
> Well, you get it... The actual point is: Linux does not use more swap only
> because you give it more swap space.
>
> "ekk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Trying to make a judgement call without enough experience -
> >
> > I just upgraded from 512 RAM to 1 GB. My swap space is 768. Should
> > I increase the swap? We do often use all of the RAM available on a
> > machine, but we of course try to avoid using the swap.
> >
> > In the same way, I also downgraded a 1 GB RAM machine to 512 (bad RAM).
> > Do I need to lower the swap space?
> >
> > In both situations disk space is not a concern.
> >
> > I assume the best way to adjust the swap is to use Partition Magic?
> > I don't want to go through a whole reinstall of either machine.
> >
> > Ken
> >
> >
> >
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From: Youngert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Advice]: Multi-Modem for a Small ISP
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 20:50:45 GMT
What I am going to do is not for commercial. The dial-ins I will be
providing are going to be by my friends as well as myself when I am not at
home. What could my provider, the cable company, complain about?
It's hard to fine a 56Kbps dial-in modem. All the 56Kbps modem that I
know of only have 33.6 Kbps uplink and when my friends do dial-in, they
will only get 33,6 Kbps, not 56 Kbps.
Martin Eriksson wrote:
> Hmm.. have you checked with your ISP that it's OK to do this?
>
> Anyway, I'd say you would get away cheapest with a multi-com-port card and
> four modems.
>
> "Youngert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:IIZa6.29088$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Hi,
> >
> > My linux system is connected to the Internet through a cable modem. So
> > far, I have setup my Linux machine as a PPP dial-in for several accounts
> and
> > am planning to provide a four local PPP dial-in for my friends whom do
> > not
> > have a cable modem access. What I am looking for is a small equipment I
> > can use to connect to my Linux machine and phone lines so that my Linux
> > machine can act as a small ISP for my friends. It will also be nice if
> > such equipment can emulate a phone line in the sense that I can connect
> > my
> > aplio/phone as well as webTV and dreamcast machine to my Linux. Any
> > suggestion on the equipment part as well as software setup?
> >
> > TIA.
> >
>
>
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From: Harlan Grove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: To all linux user......
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 21:16:14 GMT
In article <aNDa6.10906$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Tina Carter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>If I say Linux is most ugly thing every happen, It will hurt you
>right? Now Imagine yourself someone from Ms Windows side when you hate
>us same way you will GET SAME RESPOND.
...
All of this got started because someone made a flippant remark about
winmodems not working under linux?? Bit of an overreaction on your part.
Of course, you may perceive that the rest of the world (or at least
those responding to your ranting) is against you. They call that
paranoia. You can seek treatment.
But to the point, linux doesn't differ much from other unixes - they're
not intended to be single user, consumer PC operating systems. They
take work to get up & running, some of that work involves reading the
manuals and other documentation, especially the hardware compatibility
lists (in which you may find that your modem doesn't work under linux).
If you don't like linux, don't use it. If you have to learn linux for
school course or project, your time would be better spent reading the
documentation than venting your spleen. linux ain't gonna change just
because you throw a temper tantrum or two (or more).
So what's it going to be: are you too stupid to stop using linux, too
stupid to figure out how to use linux, or too stupid to realize these
(and perhaps other options, like shutting up and getting to work) are
your choices?
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Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 22:49:42 +0100
From: "s. eckloff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: changing motherboards
> [...]
> upgrade the motherboard with as little trouble as possible. What do I
> have to worry about?? If I stick with Intel (PIII 800 MHz) will the old
> software still boot. I can re-install, I just really do not want to right
> now.
recently i replaced an old motherboard (gigabyte ga586 atv, intel vx
chipset, intel pentium 233mmx; matrox mystique) with a new one (gigabyte
ga7zx1, kt133 chipset, amd duron 700; matrox g400). linux (suse 6.4)
booted as it used to, but faster... so i don't think you'll get troubles
(remark: I've got no ide devices).
yours siggi
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From: Harry George <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Attention Harry or anyone... I don't have this command.......
Date: 22 Jan 2001 13:45:38 -0800
I really think you need someone there physically looking at your
system. Perhaps you could post which city you are in/near, and
someone could tell you where a local LUG could help out. I suspect
you have an incomplete installation, and a few quick fixes would get
you in business -- but only someone with access to your system could
figure out what those fixes might be.
If "make" actually is missing, chances are the whole "gcc" compile
suite is as well, which means you are not going to get wvdial
compiled. Alternatively, make and gcc are there, but you can't see
them from root. If you were running as root, you typically have
a very minimal PATH (places the system looks for binaries). So root
sometimes has to spell out the whole path, e.g,:
/usr/bin/make
/usr/bin/make install
You can:
a) look in /usr/bin to see if "make" is there
b) run "locate make" (as yourself) to see where else it might be
c) check root's default path "echo $PATH" to see if make's full path
is covered
d) use the full path (remember to use "/", not "\")
To be honest, I'll have to give up at this point. If you really are
incapable of using the HOWTO's and cannot contact a local Linux user,
you would have to post massive amounts of information beore we could
help much more.
"Tina Carter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I have got so far everything as far as extract file goes. I extract the
> folder in /home/tina.
>
> Now what do i do?
> How do I run "Makefile"? I type this and I doesn't run......
>
> And few other things...
>
>
> This is my problem.....
> I have folder wvdial... But now what do I do?
>
> > The result is a dir, so go into that:
> > cd wvdial-1.0.0
> > Using your editor, look at the README file. You will find:
>
> > "To build and install WvDial, then:
> > make
> > make install
> you see I typed tis "make install" and it says bash doesn't have this
> command........
>
> I don't have any command called "make" or "make install" in my corel linux.
>
> What am I doing wrong in this?????
>
>
>
--
Harry George
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Karl-Heinz Herrmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Grecord alternative?
Date: 21 Jan 2001 22:20:35 +0100
Mark Bratcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I tried the app and it does indeed do what I want...
>
> EXCEPT... sadly, in some cases creates a bad wave file (eg, I recorded a 100MB
> wave file and when I attempted to play or edit it, the player/editor said it was
> corrupted somewhere in the middle of the file).
Hi,
I never had problems with corrupt files. Some problem I had is that
gramofile seems to write wrong information in the wav-header
converning the lenght of the file. cdrecord for example often says
that the file seems to be truncated and it will use the true length.
But all I recorded was always there....
K.-H.
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E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Harry George <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: drivers for linksys etherfast 10/100
Date: 22 Jan 2001 13:47:56 -0800
Worked fine for me. See:
http://www.seanet.com/~hgg9140/comp/setup/network.html
Mike Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I got a box of them for free once when I bought a switch. They work
> very well with Linux straight out of the box. Do you have the proper
> modules loaded or support built into the kernel?
>
> Cheers!
> Mike
>
> Robert wrote:
> >
> > Has anyone had anyluck with the Linksys Etherfast 10/100 PC Card for any
> > version of linux. i downloaded the source from Linksys and the newest tulip
> > drivers but I have not had anyluck... Has anyone had any luck with this
> > card? I have two of these cards and don't want to but might have to go buy
> > a 3Com. I have also seen soho cards that say they work with linux. Has
> > anyone tried these?
>
> --
> Mike Edwards
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Harry George
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.windows.x.i386unix,alt.os.linux
Subject: How to save xvidtune settings?
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 21:55:49 GMT
I recently succumbed to the tempation of installing RedHat 7 ...
After some considerable partitioning issues, I THINK I finally
have everything running okay ...
With one exception -- when I first run startx, the screen is
shifted about 30 pixels to the right of where it is in Windows ME.
Now I can use xvidtune to get it shifted to where I want it, but
I can't seem to get it to stay in the right spot on reboot.
I have Fetched the number from xvidtune and put them where I think
they're supposed to be in /etc/X11/XF86Config but still no luck.
Any suggestions?
Thanks!
Ax
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From: Jarl Friis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MPEG-2 decoder
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 23:14:14 +0100
Udo Wolter wrote:
> Jarl Friis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Does anybody have a suggestion, experience with a good, supported MPEG-2
> > decoder card.
>
> I think, those with the hollywood chip are supported, but:
> Do you really need it ?
> I'm using a PIII 600 and with XFree 4.0.2 I have perfect MPEG2 decoding
> in fullscreen (with the XV extension). I'd suggest you save your money.
> The only thing you need is a "good" graphic card. And everything with
> Nvidia TNT I/II should do it (and they are cheap now). There's
> absolutely no need for a big card like Geforce or a MPEG2 decoding card.
I have an Athlon Tbird 800MHz, 256Mb RAM, GeForce2 GTS (64MB DDR RAM). and
most standard computergame-like MPEG movies play just fine, but when it
comes to highquality DVD movies, it just can't catch up so it's relaxing to
watch a movie, I haven't tryed the Xv extension, whatever that is, but
still I think I need a MPEG2 card for playing DVD movies without
disturbings. Or maybe a quatro-Tbird 1GHz can do it as well.
I found some resources on
http://www.linuxvideo.org/user/res.html
and yes you are right about the hollywood chipset
thanks anyway!
Jarl
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From: Noble Pepper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [HELP]: LS-120 Setup as Floppy /dev/fd0
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 16:21:55 -0600
Youngert wrote:
> Noble Pepper wrote:
>
>> Youngert wrote:
>>
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I finally finished setting up my Linux system with an LS-120 UHD ATAPI
>> > Floppy drive and would like to be able to use it as a 1.44MB floppy
>> > drive
>> > with the mtools utility, i.e. mdir, mcopy, etc. Everytime when I issue
>> > "mdir a:", my Linux system complained with the following messages:
>> >
>> > init: set default params
>> > Cannot initialize 'A:'
>> >
>> > Does anyone know how I can setup the LS-120 drive acts as a 1.44 floppy
>> > drive?
>> >
>> I don't use mtools but my LS-120 works fine with 1.44 floppies and the
>> gnu file utilities.
>>
>> What happens if you use ls instead of mdir?
>
> I can mount the 1.44MB diskette as R/W and us `ls' as well as any other
> linux commands to manipulate the diskette. However, what I would like to
> do is to be able to access the diskette for R/W without mouting it, i.e.
> mdir, mcopy, etc. I remember that with a regular floppy drive, the mtools
> package should do it.
>
>
I'm not any help there, you may want to pickup a cheap floppy drive and use
it, I've seen them for less than $20 lately.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.windows.x.i386unix,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: How to save xvidtune settings?
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 22:33:11 GMT
hi there
just note the prober freq (the number on the most left) and resolution
mode from the output of xvidtune then look for them
in /etc/X11/XF86Config and substitute the line in this file which
begins with the mode and freq with the output of xvidtune
then restart X and everything will be ok
good luck
bye
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Perry Pip)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,tw.bbs.comp.linux
Subject: Re: Please tell me your motherboard name if it works properly in Linux
Date: 22 Jan 2001 22:45:24 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 17:26:07 +0800,
Jerry Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I want to gather information on the compatibility of Motherboards on
>Linux.
>
1) Gigabyte GA6BXD running dual PIII 450/100 - running well for two
years starting with RH5.2 upgraded thru RH6.2
2) Abit BP6 running dual Celery 366/66 - running debian's 'unstable'
distribution very stabley for a year and a half...most of the time
overclocked to 523/95 with no trouble whatsoever (550/100 won't post
though, darn). Also dual booting W2K for about a year, with
instability consistent with the expected 120 day MTTF at (at normal
clock speed).
I wouldn't recommend either of these though, as they have become
slightly dated. The GA6BXD won't run more than Katmai 600/100. The BP6
is limited to a celery PPGA 533/66 (possibly overclocked to 800/100),
unless you get a FC-PPGA adaptor but then it won't support
SMP. However, with the luck I've had with these boards, my next board
(itching to upgrade soon) will either be a Gigabyte GA-6VXDC7 or a
Abit VP6:
http://www.abit-usa.com/english/product/motherboards/vp6.htm
http://www.giga-byte.com/products/6vxdc7.htm
Hope that helps
Perry
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: DVD decoder: software vs. hardware
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 22:39:36 GMT
I'm thinking about buying a DVD decoder card. my dvd drive came with
my system, but had win98 specific decorder software. I'm wondering if
a hardware decoder will help play dvds with linux. The dvd howto
seemingly only addresses software decoding. Are there advantages to
getting a decoder card? does linux utilize a decoder card when playing
dvds? I would like to here from both sides:
-Has anyone got dvd's playing w/OUT decoder hardware?
-what distro?
-what apps?
-what's the performance like?
-Has anyone got dvd's playing WITH decoder hardware?
-do you actually use the decoder hardware?
-what distro?
-what apps?
-what's the performance like?
thanx,
-jason
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From: Mark Dickie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HOW DO I INSTALLED WVDIAL???????
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 22:47:11 +0000
I use kppp myself and the problem you are having is as Peter suggested the
modem not responding to the initialise command. Basically if your modem is
based on Lucent chips it won't work. Lucent have released drivers for
their chipset but the driver in my experience is buggy and does not work so
I would go with an external modem as you suggested yourself. Any external
modem which connects to your seriel port will work and is easy to set up.
I would go with a Diamond modem, US Robotics or Motorola. Once you install
the external modem just try to use kppp again but this time go to
setup/modem and select ttys0 as the device and dial again. Hopefully that
should work and you will then be online.
Have fun and I hope that helps.
Tina Carter wrote:
> Try to understand me first please.
>
> I loged in as "root" user.
>
> I am in my gui Kd window.
> Now I Click on Application Starter
> Then, Applications
> Then, Network
> Then Dial-Up.
>
> Now I click on Dial......
>
> Then small window appear saying
> MODEM READY.
> MODEM INITIALIZING.
>
> WHERE THE HELLLL IS DIAL?
>
> Now anyone understand this? Or do I have to do something like configure? I
> can't USE MAKE OR MAKEFILE COMMAND.
> I typed them in In Linux Command Winows and it's says Such command doesn't
> exist....
>
> Why ?????
>
> How do I installed wvdial or whatever I need to do?
>
> Finally
>
> If I buy external modem WILL I GOT THROUGHT SAME DAMMMM THING?
> WHICH ONE IS GOOD MODEM FOR LINUX, WILL I HAVE TO CONFIGURE? AND HOWWWWWW,
> I CAN'T EVEN CONFIGURE THIS ONE......
> I AM NOT VERY STUPID AND NOT LAZY I SPEND ANOTHER 6 FREAKING HOURS AND GOT
> NOTHING... I DON'T KNOW HOW TO RUN MAKE OR MAKE FILE COMMAND....... THERE
> IS NON IN MY LINUX......
> WHY?????????
>
> I am frusteated I read and read and configure HOW DO I INSTALL SOMETHING
> WHICH I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO RUN?
> IN WINDOWS I TYPE SETUP.EXE OR CONFIGURE IN DOS...
> BUT HOW TO I INSTALL THIS ? WHY MAKE AND MAKEFILE WON'T WORK IN MY
> COMPUTER?????????????
>
>
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank Sweetser)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.windows.x.i386unix,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: How to save xvidtune settings?
Date: 22 Jan 2001 22:31:27 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I recently succumbed to the tempation of installing RedHat 7 ...
>After some considerable partitioning issues, I THINK I finally
>have everything running okay ...
>
>With one exception -- when I first run startx, the screen is
>shifted about 30 pixels to the right of where it is in Windows ME.
>
>Now I can use xvidtune to get it shifted to where I want it, but
>I can't seem to get it to stay in the right spot on reboot.
>
>I have Fetched the number from xvidtune and put them where I think
>they're supposed to be in /etc/X11/XF86Config but still no luck.
Did you remove all other mode lines for the same resolution, to make
sure the one you put in is the one getting used?
--
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Full-time WPI Network Tech, Part time Linux/Perl guy |
The only skills I have the patience to learn are those that have no real
application in life. -- Calvin
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