Linux-Hardware Digest #408, Volume #14 Tue, 27 Feb 01 06:13:05 EST
Contents:
Re: Linux partitioning question ("Greg H.")
Re: Linux partitioning question ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Print jobs fail silently w/ Epson 740 (See signature for email address)
Re: Need LOTS of disks: Promise ATA RAID?? (Mark Hahn)
Re: Need LOTS of disks: Promise ATA RAID?? (Mark Hahn)
Re: Help w/ scanner (The Real Bev)
Re: bttv tuner with 2.2.17 (jeanseb)
Re: IOCTL Usage (Josef Moellers)
Re: GLX driver for Riva TNT in RedHat (Harri Haataja)
Re: Should I abandon SCSI? (Harri Haataja)
Re: Need LOTS of disks: Promise ATA RAID?? (Jason Clifford)
Re: Illegal.............................please read
. 1560 ("Michael Duxbury")
Re: Problem with 3com TokenLink Velocity PCI 3c359 ("Jan Kov��")
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From: "Greg H." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux partitioning question
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.misc
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 04:12:42 GMT
In comp.os.linux.hardware Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> (ignorance is NOT a good reason for doing something ..=)
> If you don't know, then plainly you should go and find out. Check the
> HOWTO.
There's nothing wrong with what he said and most will agree. Besides,
that HOWTO is intended for servers and multi-user systems, not casual
home users.
With all the distros and their races to pump out whatever is not bleeding
edge (and even then that's not out of the question), plus the incredibly
fast and easy installs, it's not worth the time or effort to lay out several
partitions. With the exception of /home and /boot (if you suffer from the
1024 cylinder problem), / and swap can get you by just fine. In 6+ years
of use, this was all I ever needed. I've screwed around with different
partitioning schemes and found it to be a waste when I am the only user.
Unless you actually take the time to perform backups and carry out true
administrative measures regarding your box and several partitions, then it's
all for naught. I am willing to bet that less than half of those who actually
feel compelled to use any of the partitioning schemes described in the HOWTO
never back up anything except their personal user files. If you're going to
apply the concepts of the Partitioning HOWTO, then make damn sure you take
heed of the Backup HOWTO and the SAG so you truly understand why you're
doing what you're doing and if you really, truly need it.
I'm not trying to slam anyone, but I think it's pretty unfair to call
someone ignorant about an issue when there's no supporting reason behind
it, especially when there are quite a few posts here countering it.
Greg
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Linux partitioning question
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 05:39:26 +0100
In comp.os.linux.misc Greg H. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In comp.os.linux.hardware Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> (ignorance is NOT a good reason for doing something ..=)
>> If you don't know, then plainly you should go and find out. Check the
>> HOWTO.
> There's nothing wrong with what he said and most will agree. Besides,
No, some will agree. And there is plenty wrong with what he said. For
one thing, it's only relevant to relatively lazy people who don't care
about the condition of their disk, its recoverability, or a mound of
other considerations that are discussed in the HOWTO ...
> that HOWTO is intended for servers and multi-user systems, not casual
Nonsense. It tells you about the issues.
> home users.
> With all the distros and their races to pump out whatever is not bleeding
> edge (and even then that's not out of the question), plus the incredibly
> fast and easy installs, it's not worth the time or effort to lay out several
Nonsense nonsense nonsense. I suppose I don't have the time and effort
to partition my debian slackware suse and redhat machines, eh? I mean,
I only have about a couple of hundred of them ...
> partitions. With the exception of /home and /boot (if you suffer from the
> 1024 cylinder problem), / and swap can get you by just fine. In 6+ years
EExcept that /var will be on your /root and/or /home partition, which
is an error of truly monumental proportions in either case.
> of use, this was all I ever needed. I've screwed around with different
> partitioning schemes and found it to be a waste when I am the only user.
Which is not the situation EVER in a multitasking o/s. Don't try and
apply dos/windows logic. You are NOT the only user on your disk, even
if you are the only user in your house.
> Unless you actually take the time to perform backups and carry out true
Like everyone.
> administrative measures regarding your box and several partitions, then it's
> all for naught. I am willing to bet that less than half of those who actually
> feel compelled to use any of the partitioning schemes described in the HOWTO
> never back up anything except their personal user files. If you're going to
Why would they back up anything else except that and /etc and parts of /var?
I don't! The rest just comes from a distro, which is replacable. This
is not the problem. The problem is when your machine breaks, which it
will do at frequencies of about once every three months to once every
two years, depending on luck or circumstance.
> apply the concepts of the Partitioning HOWTO, then make damn sure you take
> heed of the Backup HOWTO and the SAG so you truly understand why you're
> doing what you're doing and if you really, truly need it.
Backup questions are orthogonal. Look .. the issue is whether you think
that having rooms in your house is a good thing or not. Sure, it saves
all kinds of thinking and planning if you don't have internal walls,
and it avoids the problem of not being able to fit the sofa in the
small room. But do you really want to cook in the living room? If not,
why not? What's wrong with washing your clothes in the bedroom?
> I'm not trying to slam anyone, but I think it's pretty unfair to call
> someone ignorant about an issue when there's no supporting reason behind
It sounds an entirely accurate description to me! And there are piles
of supporting reasons. Exactly the reasons for having walls in your house.
> it, especially when there are quite a few posts here countering it.
So what? Has the person read them? Has he read the howto? If not, he is
ignorant of the issues involved.
Peter
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From: See signature for email address <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Print jobs fail silently w/ Epson 740
Date: 26 Feb 2001 19:21:21 GMT
Brian S Enyart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've been stumped with the problem I'm having with my Epson 740 printer.
> Print jobs sent to it complete successfully, but fail to actually print
> anything.
> If I do a simple "lpr -m <file>" I get an email back indicating a
> successful print completion, but there is never any printing.
> /var/log/lp-errs is empty, and there is no evidence (that I can tell)
> of print failure.
> I'm running Debian unstable, using magicfilter and lpd.
> /etc/printcap:
> |lpep740|Epson 740|lp:\
> :lp=/dev/lp0:sd=/var/spool/lpd/ep740:\
> :sh:pw#80:pl#66:px#1440:mx#0:\
> :if=/etc/magicfilter/StylusColor-740@360dpi-filter:\
> :af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs:
> Any ideas?
> --
> Brian Enyart
> http://members.iquest.net/~enyart
Do you have the latest version of lprng package installed? I had similar
problem which went away after updating to lprng 3.6.12-8 and
magicfilter 1.2-39.
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(970)898-9214 Hewlett-Packard
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Fort Collins, CO
DISCLAIMER: I express my opinions only. My employers have nothing to do
with my opinions.
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From: Mark Hahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Need LOTS of disks: Promise ATA RAID??
Date: 27 Feb 2001 05:38:01 GMT
> If they're going to get heavy use (multiple simultaneous accesses),
> then I wouldn't recommend IDE.
this is a silly old wives tale. there's nothing "concurrency-challenged"
about IDE: all OS's do queue sorting.
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From: Mark Hahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Need LOTS of disks: Promise ATA RAID??
Date: 27 Feb 2001 05:40:59 GMT
> in using FC rather than SCSI because the throughput is limited by
> the architecture rather than the upper bound of SCSI performance.
this is rather peculiar, given that it's trivial to knock together
an IDE system (at $5/GB) that sustains 90 MB/s. while it's certainly
not difficult to accomplish this with SCSI, it will cost 4x as much.
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From: The Real Bev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help w/ scanner
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 22:57:22 -0800
Cubic Meter wrote:
>
> OK, I'm sure scanner questions get asked around here 500 time a day, but I
> have one, and I need help. As in the subject line, I have a Mustek 600 III
> EP Plus parport scanner, that I picked up for 15 bucks. I wasn't sure if it
> was supported in Linux or not, but for the price, I couldn't pass it up.
> Turns out it is supported. I installed SANE 1.0.3 from my Mandrake distro
> CDs, but still nothing. Everything I have seen on the web about the SANE
> Mustek backend is in command line language, which I am very new at. Is
> there a newbie-ized way of setting up this scanner?
>
> Any and all help would be appreciated.
I can't offer any, I'm in the same boat. SANE 1.0.4 has the mustek_pp
stuff added (go back to the SANE site and download the new one), but I
can't get it to run either. I haven't a clue about how the device-names
work.
scanimage -L (give a list of possible devices) yields
device `v4l:/dev/video0' is a V4L OV511 USB Camera virtual device
device `v4l:/dev/bttv0' is a V4L OV511 USB Camera virtual device
device `pnm:0' is a Noname PNM file reader virtual device
device `pnm:1' is a Noname PNM file reader virtual device
but scanimage -d pnm:0 yields
scanimage: sane_start: Invalid argument
And that's the best that it's done, besides giving the long helpful message
about options.
Good luck to all of us, but I don't think we're going to get any :-(
--
Cheers,
Bev
***********************************************************
"Everyone ought to stop and smell crayons once in a while."
-- David Ashley
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From: jeanseb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: bttv tuner with 2.2.17
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 08:12:52 +0100
bttv driver was developped out of the kernel tree in 2.2 kernels.
So if u had having problem the best was to get the lastest driver from
(xawtv site link) n then compil them for ure kernel.
In 2.4 release the driver are now include in the kernel tree and I think
now the best is to update ure kernel to 2.4.
Marcus H�gglund wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I'm running 2.2.16 with xawtv (HW: Hauppauge WinTV Th.) and it's working
> fine for me after upgrading to the latest bttv-driver. Although I'm also
> having some problems with the tuner and it's totally impossible to use
> the auto-tuning, I have to use the manual method (up-down-arrow)...
>
> /Marcus
>
>
> Daniel Naughton wrote:
>
>> This WinTV card has been driving me nuts. I had the thing working in
>> Redhat 5.2 and 6.1. In 6.1, xawtv worked well, but bcast2000 couldn't
>> make the sound come out of the card. I've recently upgraded the
>> kernel from 2.2.14 to 2.2.17 and now the sound works in bcast2000.
>> Yeah! However, the tuner no longer functions. (F***) Has anyone
>> seen this? I've recompiled the driver, but the results are the same.
>> There's a few strange errors that I can't chase down..
>>
>> From what I've read, the i2c.o is the bus that this card runs on.
>> It's also supposed to detect the tuner. When I type the following:
>>
>> # /sbin/depmod -ae
>> /lib/modules/2.2.17-14/misc/i2c.o: unresolved symbol(s)
>> __udelay
>> kmalloc
>> kfree
>> printk
it seems that u had compil with the wrong option. Must change the symbol depandant
version in ure config file.
>>
>> It sure seems like this is hosed up? Any kernel people out there know
>> if this could be the cause?
>>
>> I insmoded the card the same way it was last time:
>> insmod videodev
>> insmod i2c verbose=1 scan=1 i2c_debug=0
>> insmod tuner debug=1 type=2
>> insmod msp3400
>> insmod bttv radio=0 card=10
>>
>> However, the tuner doens't look like it was recognized. I've tried
>> every different tuner in the list?
>> # /sbin/lsmod
>> Module Size Used by
>> bttv 36568 0 (unused)
>> msp3400 10016 0 (unused)
>> tuner 1964 0 (unused)
>> i2c 3360 3 [bttv msp3400 tuner]
>> videodev 2368 2 [bttv]
>>
>>
>> My /etc/modules.conf:
>> #TV
>> alias char-major-81 bttv
>> pre-install bttv insmod; modprobe -k tuner; modprobe -k msp3400
>> options bttv radio=0 card=10
>> options tuner type=2
>>
>>
>> The bootup used to say this:
>> i2c: bus registered: bt848-0
>> i2c: scanning bus bt848-0: found device at addr=0xa0
>> i2c: scanning bus bt848-0: found device at addr=0xc2
>> i2c: device attached: tuner (addr=0xc2, bus=bt848-0, driver=tuner)
>>
>> Now it says this:
>> i2c: initialized (i2c bus scan enabled)
>> i2c: driver registered: tuner
>> i2c: driver registered: msp3400
>> i2c: bus registered: bt848-0
>>
>>
>> It doesn't seem to get the "tuner=2" option passed to the module. Is
>> there a way to force it?
>> Any help would be appreciated.
>>
>> Dan Naughton
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From: Josef Moellers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.system,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.embedded,linux.redhat.devel,linux.dev.kernel
Subject: Re: IOCTL Usage
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 09:10:50 +0100
Ajit Sodhi wrote:
> =
> How can I support an ioctl call for a read/write operation, which needs=
two
> param for the command (IOCTL Command and offset value) and two for the
> output (output buffer and size). Basically I want to offer same
> functionality of the driver read/write function calls via ioctl calls a=
lso.
Your ioctl interface should use a pointer to a structure as the third
ioctl argument, pretty much like the terminal ioctls carry more than
just a single int.
-- =
Josef M=F6llers (Pinguinpfleger bei FSC)
If failure had no penalty success would not be a prize
-- T. Pratchett
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Harri Haataja)
Subject: Re: GLX driver for Riva TNT in RedHat
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 09:16:02 GMT
Marcus H�gglund wrote:
>I "uninstalled" (rpm -e) the preinstalled Mesa and disintegrated every
>GL lib on the system, then reinstalled the Nvidia package and now it
>seems to work. :-)
It works? On a regular TNT_1_ card?
What card is that?
(I had an ASUS V3400 and 0.9.5 failed in many mysterious ways)
--
We are the dyslexic borg! your ass will be laminated!!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Harri Haataja)
Crossposted-To: comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Re: Should I abandon SCSI?
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 09:42:01 GMT
Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
>On Sat, 17 Feb 2001 04:59:05 GMT, Ron Reaugh wrote:
>>Donovan Rebbechi wrote in message ...
>
>RAID 0 is great for high performance desktops, but if you want a
>storage solution that's also *reliable*, it's useless. (BTW, shouldn't
>RAID 0 be "AID 0" ? THe R doesn't really apply)
Perhaps CAID for Concatenated Array... if you want a buzz TLA.
Mostly not inexpensive, though =)
--
We are the dyslexic borg! your ass will be laminated!!
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From: Jason Clifford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Need LOTS of disks: Promise ATA RAID??
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 09:52:03 +0000
On 27 Feb 2001, Mark Hahn wrote:
> > If they're going to get heavy use (multiple simultaneous accesses),
> > then I wouldn't recommend IDE.
>
> this is a silly old wives tale. there's nothing "concurrency-challenged"
> about IDE: all OS's do queue sorting.
You obviously have never tried to implement a busy RAID system using IDE.
I have and to say the results were unsatisfactory would be akin to saying
the Atlantic Ocean is a puddle.
For large/busy raid solutions I'd avoid IDE based RAID and opt for a
hardware based RAID solution using high end SCSI devices.
It's more expensive but unless you don't value your data it's worth it.
Jason Clifford
And no, I do not sell hardware.
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From: "Michael Duxbury" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.development
Subject: Re: Illegal.............................please read
. 1560
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 10:25:52 -0000
I am in more serious trouble than that..... I am trying to configure BT
Internet in my kppp!!!!!!!!!!
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:3a9a4c3d$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Dare you take your computer to be fixed.?
>
> Watch out you, are YOU being checked..............
>
> Have you viewed illegal pictures
>
> You're in Serious Trouble - It's a Proven Fact!
>
> Deleting "Internet Cache and History" will NOT protect you
> because any of the Web Pages, Pictures, Movies, Videos, Sounds,
> E-mail, Chat Logs and Everything Else you see or do could easily be
recovered
>
> This is the answer...................
http://www.evidence-eliminator.com/go.shtml?A653704
>
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>
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From: "Jan Kov��" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problem with 3com TokenLink Velocity PCI 3c359
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 12:01:42 +0100
I hate token ring. Had the same problems. I have bought SysKonnect PCI
network adapter for linux and left the 3Com card for the PCs with Windows9x.
But teoreticaly it may work. Recomplile the kernel and use tms380 module. It
should support Compaq 4/16 TR PCI, SysKonnect TR4/16 PCI, Thomas-Conrad
TC4048 PCI 4/16, 3Com Token Link Velocity.
Good luck. Post a note if you have been successful.
TNX
Moritz Petersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> p��e v diskusn�m
p��sp�vku:90lc4s$l8$[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Hello,
>
> does anyone have experiences with a 3com TokenLink Velocity PCI with 3c359
> chipset?
> With my SuSE 7.0 Professional distribution there were no default drivers
for
> this card and unfortunateley I cannot find any '3c359.o' file in the
> internet anywhere... neither at the SuSE support database nor at the 3com
> support pages.
>
> Any help will be appreciated, thanks
>
> Moritz Petersen
>
>
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