Linux-Hardware Digest #460, Volume #14            Fri, 9 Mar 01 13:13:06 EST

Contents:
  Re: Installation iso download problem (holcomb)
  i815E onboard sound under MDK7.1? ("Nicholas H. Luhr")
  Sound Cards ("Kelvin Barnes")
  Re: Installation iso download problem ("Chris Armitage")
  Re: Installation iso download problem (Kenneth Mokkelbost)
  Re: No sound when not root ? (LFS) (Laurent Cortier)
  Re: adaptec fibre channel controller (Prostorage)
  Re: laser printer for Linux (Jon Abbey)
  Re: I've downloaded the ISO file.  Now what do I do with it?  I've burned a CD and 
it won't boot with it. ("goolias")
  Re: adaptec boot (Tom Gafford)
  Re: Processor ID (Samuel Hocevar)
  laser with lpd setup (Tom Gafford)
  Re: Processor ID (John Hasler)

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From: holcomb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Installation iso download problem
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 15:30:06 -0000


kodos wrote:
> 
> 
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, holcomb 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I have downloaded the first of 2 .iso files of Redhat 7.  I downloaded 
it
> > in binary mode like I am supposed to.   When I write the .iso file to 
the
> > CD I just get the .iso file on CD.  Thats the only entry that shows 
when I
> > read the CD.  I am supposed to get the folders and files for the first
> > insallation CD of RedHat 7.  What am I doing wrong?  I am using Sony CD
> > extreme disc writing software.  I said I wanted to create a data disk 
and
> > the instructions said it would write it in iso 9660 format.  Before I 
make
> > another coaster, what should I do?  Thank you for the help.  JH
> > 
> > --
> > Posted via CNET Help.com
> > http://www.help.com/
> 
> thats it man... an iso image is bootable ...
> 

I do not understand your reply.  Are you saying it is ok as is?  A Redhat 
installation disk normally has folders, rpms and such on it.  My burner 
software defaulted to MS Jolliet file name format.  Could that be a 
problem.  Should I use one of the iso file name formats?  I could not see 
any settings to say the source of my data is raw data either. JH


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http://www.help.com/

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From: "Nicholas H. Luhr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: i815E onboard sound under MDK7.1?
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 15:20:16 GMT

I've got a Abit SE6 motherboard with the intel 815E onboard sound.  Upon
installing linux, the sound does not work.  What do I need to do to get
sound working in this configuration?  i've done some small websearchs
and turned up nothing about mandrake with sound on an 815e.

thanks,
nick


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From: "Kelvin Barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Sound Cards
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 15:51:07 GMT

I have installed Caldera Open Linux 2.4 on a HP Vectra VA PC.
However there is a problem with sound - instead of sound from the speakers
connected to the soundcard I get sound from the computer's internal
speakers.

Any suggestions for a fix?



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From: "Chris Armitage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Installation iso download problem
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 15:58:11 GMT

you need to look for the option in your CD writing package  "Burn Image"
this will then do the work for you.
Not knowing your software I can't tell you where the option is, I use Nero.


"holcomb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I have downloaded the first of 2 .iso files of Redhat 7.  I downloaded it
> in binary mode like I am supposed to.   When I write the .iso file to the
> CD I just get the .iso file on CD.  Thats the only entry that shows when I
> read the CD.  I am supposed to get the folders and files for the first
> insallation CD of RedHat 7.  What am I doing wrong?  I am using Sony CD
> extreme disc writing software.  I said I wanted to create a data disk and
> the instructions said it would write it in iso 9660 format.  Before I make
> another coaster, what should I do?  Thank you for the help.  JH
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/



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From: Kenneth Mokkelbost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Installation iso download problem
Date: 09 Mar 2001 17:01:34 +0100

holcomb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> kodos wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, holcomb 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I have downloaded the first of 2 .iso files of Redhat 7.  I downloaded 
> it
> > > in binary mode like I am supposed to.   When I write the .iso file to 
> the
> > > CD I just get the .iso file on CD.  Thats the only entry that shows 
> when I
> > > read the CD.  I am supposed to get the folders and files for the first
> > > insallation CD of RedHat 7.  What am I doing wrong?  I am using Sony CD
> > > extreme disc writing software.  I said I wanted to create a data disk 
> and
> > > the instructions said it would write it in iso 9660 format.  Before I 
> make
> > > another coaster, what should I do?  Thank you for the help.  JH
> > > 
> > > --
> > > Posted via CNET Help.com
> > > http://www.help.com/
> > 
> > thats it man... an iso image is bootable ...
> > 
> 
> I do not understand your reply.  Are you saying it is ok as is?  A Redhat 
> installation disk normally has folders, rpms and such on it.  My burner 
> software defaulted to MS Jolliet file name format.  Could that be a 
> problem.  Should I use one of the iso file name formats?  I could not see 
> any settings to say the source of my data is raw data either. JH
> 
> 
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/

I'm not familiar with Sony's software, but when you have a file called .iso
it's a file which is an image of the cd and it _must_ be written to the cd
as an image, not as any other file on your hdd. The image file contains
the files and the directory structure of the cd.

In other words: You must instruct your cd-writer software that it should
_not_ write the iso-file as a huge file, but as a file that contains all
the info the cd should contain (toc, files, filesystem info, etc).

When you have done this correctly, you will see (even in windows) that the
cd contains rpms, readme-files, etc.

Since I don't have Sony's software I can't help you through this step by
step. But check Sony's help file. And if it can't write iso-files/images,
get another software that do (nero, adaptec, etc).

Cheers,
Kenneth

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From: Laurent Cortier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: No sound when not root ? (LFS)
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 15:49:20 GMT

>> I have a problem with my self-made linux "distribution". The sound is
>> working perfectly when logged as root, under KDE 2.1 and Quake 3.

>> But when I log as my normal user, the sound doesn't work at all and
>> the KDE sound architecture crashes...
>> I tried the following :
>> create a group called audio
>> assign my user to that group
>> chgrp audio /dev/dsp*
>> chgrp audio /dev/audio*
>> chgrp audio /dev/mixer*
>> chgrp audio /dev/midi*
>> chgrp audio /dev/sndstat
>> 
>> But it didn't help... Help :)

> Is the audio group given any permission to read/write to these?
> I imagine that if you chmod a+rw /dev/dsp0, etc could fix this problem.
> It did with me.

Hooo, thanks :))) It worked indeed :)
I had tried to chmod them before, but I was chmoding them under the root
account with wrong options, so I would only change the root's permissions...
Stupid me.

You saved my day, thanks again :)

-- 
Laurent Cortier
Consultant in a free world
 http://www.dsimprove.be

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Subject: Re: adaptec fibre channel controller
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Prostorage)
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 16:16:00 GMT

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>has anyone had any luck/skill in getting adaptec fibre channel controllers 
to work in linux
>
>specifically the aha 950b, i've got the parts to build a nice little jbod 
box, and i'm hoping i don't have to use M$ to get it done
>
>any help would be greatly appreciated
>
>--
>24 hours in a day... 24 beers in a case... coincidence?
>--
>C White:
>
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controllers to work in linux</pre>
>
><pre>specifically the aha 950b, i've got the parts to build a nice little 
jbod box, and i'm hoping i don't have to use M$ to get it done</pr
>
><pre>any help would be greatly appreciated</pre>
>
><pre>--&nbsp;
>24 hours in a day... 24 beers in a case... coincidence?
>--
>C White:&nbsp;<[EMAIL PROTECTED]></pre>
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that board is (probably) from the family of products that was sold to 
JNI a few years ago so i'd look there ( www.jni.com )
they've got new stuff out now (& different part#'s) but take a shot

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jon Abbey)
Subject: Re: laser printer for Linux
Date: 9 Mar 2001 10:22:07 -0600

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
De Roeck Software  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| Our HP4050TN works great with linux,

If you want something a bit cheaper, there's also the LaserJet 2100TN,
which comes with PostScript and an lpd-friendly ethernet connection.

The only thing is, the 2100TN doesn't have the physical console that
the 4050 has, so you'll need a Windows (or Mac?) box on your local
network to run the software needed to assign 2100TN an I.P. address.

Once that's done, you can admin the 2100TN by accessing a web server
built in to it, no Windows boxes needed.

A 2100TN will go for right around a thousand dollars, but you can
knock a couple hundred off that price and get the 2100M if you are
willing to drive it off your parallel port.

| regards,
| 
| nick.

-- 
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Jonathan Abbey                                              [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Austin, TX                                      http://www.burrow.org/~jonabbey

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From: "goolias" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I've downloaded the ISO file.  Now what do I do with it?  I've burned a 
CD and it won't boot with it.
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 00:45:03 +0800

Check to see if you have
burn it correctly.
An ISO image file after burn should show
all folders and files in the CD, before
that it's just an ISO file, you can't see
a thing but a file only.
Did you burn it by choose the burn from
image file ?

"Linux Newbie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:985j0q$cok$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Please can you help me?
>
> I've downloaded the SuSE EVal 7_1 ISO file.  Now what do I do with it?
I've
> burned a CD and it won't boot with it.
>
> I've never installed Linux before and I am at a loss as to how I make the
CD
> bootable from a PC that only has Windows 98.  I have tried to out YAST2 on
a
> floppy - it wouldn't boot the CD, it kept asking for CD#1.
>
> I also made another boot floppy from "bootdisk" file.  It still didn't
work
> out - it was trying to find CD#1 as well.
>
> WHat can I do to get the install to work?
>
> Thanks.
>
>



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From: Tom Gafford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: adaptec boot
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 08:55:49 -0800

thanks all for the help.  I am posting this followup because my problem
turned out to be from a combination of my missteps with lilo.conf and a
possible lilo map loader bug.  somehow the alias had fallen out of one of my
boot choices, lilo was complaining about it, and I discovered that when lilo
complains, it may not have written a boot.   i fixed the alias and lilo
complained that the disk to which the boot was being written was not the
first disk.  I don't know how to look within linux to see what it thinks the
first disk is, so I booted dos from a floppy. this system has an ide drive
with nothing but windows, and a scsi drive with nothing but linux, and an
Intel 440BX motherboard that permits setting boot order for the hard drives.
I booted DOS from a floppy, ran FDISK, and it reported that the first disk
was indeed the scsi drive (the other wierdness to all of this was that my
adaptec 2940u2w, even updated with 2.57.2 firmware, was loading the BIOS for
the drive as I had set it up to do, but was not displaying the 'bios loaded'
message).   FDISK showed that DOS had mounted the IDE as C: since it
couldn't find any dos partitions on drive 1.  The IDE showed as drive 2 in
the select drive menu, and the adaptec was drive 1.  So the SCSI drive
should be the 'first drive' for lilo, no?  I fixed the problem by disabling
the IDE interface, running lilo without error, and reenabling the IDE
interface.  Now the system boots the adaptec disk nicely.  but I can't
re-run lilo to reinsert the IDE boot option because it will complain again
that the SCSI ain't the first disk, even tho it damn well is. sigh.  I am
going to try forcing disk and bios identities with those commands in the
lilo.conf file to see if I can get around what looks like the map loader's
misidentification of hardware.  Should I report this as a lilo bug?

> From: Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Organization: Nunoyerbiniss
> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.hardware
> Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 06:27:26 GMT
> Subject: Re: adaptec boot
> 
> I had the same problem.
> recompiled the kernel and put scsi as a module and things died.
> 
> Have to put ramdisk ability in and compile that way if you want scsi as a
> module, and boot from the drive.
> (mkinitrd stuff)
> The howto on recompiling the kernel for 2.2 has the relevant stuff,
> (works for 2.4 as well) but the mkinitrd section did the trick for me.
> 
> ymmv.
> 
> 
> 
> Drew Roedersheimer wrote:
> 
>> On 21 Feb 2001 00:13:09 -0500, Eric P. McCoy wrote:
>>> Tom Gafford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>> 
>>>> I'm trying to set up an adaptec 2940u2w to boot directly into linux.
>>>> The
>>>> disk works fine when I do a lilo boot from a floppy.  I have the
>>>> adaptec scsi select set to include the drive in the bios scan, and to
>>>> boot the unit number of the drive, and the motherboard bios to try the
>>>> adaptec before the ide drive (MB is Intel 440-BX 'Jabil'), and it sure
>>>> looks like YaST (SuSE 6.3) is writing to the MBR of the scsi drive when
>>>> I do a lilo config, but it
>>>> sure don't boot!  Is this supposed to work?
>>> 
>>> Yes.  I have an onboard AIC7895 which I've used to boot just fine.
>>> 
>>> You might get more help if you described what, exactly, went wrong.
>>> Did you see any part of the "LILO" message, or does the BIOS simply
>>> report it can't boot from the device?  When installing LILO, does it
>>> do anything like warn you about possibly not installing on the boot
>>> device?
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Eric McCoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> "Knowing that a lot of people across the world with Geocities sites
>>> absolutely despise me is about the only thing that can add a positive
>>> spin to this situation."  - Something Awful, 1/11/2001
>> 
>> 
>> This may not be it at all, but I'll give you my $0.02.  I have the same
>> board
>> which I've been using for quite a while under linux.  I use lilo, and I've
>> found that I need to compile the aic7xx support (I think that's the name)
>> directly into the kernel...  I'm sure there's a workaround with modules,
>> but if I don't compile it into the kernel, it hangs on boot.  If you're
>> not
>> even getting a boot prompt, then this is probably not the issue.  Answers
>> to Eric's questions would probably shed some more light on the real
>> problem...
>> 
>> 
>> HTH
>> -DR
>> 
> 


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Samuel Hocevar)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Processor ID
Date: 9 Mar 2001 16:56:03 GMT

On Fri, 09 Mar 2001 14:07:05 +0000,
Kasper Dupont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Too me that sounds like a bad design, a program runing in user space
> should not have access to that information without the kernels
> knowledge.

   There are situations where running cpuid can be useful, when
detecting whether it's safe to run MMX code for instance.

Sam.
-- 
Samuel Hocevar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://sam.zoy.org/>
for DVDs in Linux screw the MPAA and ; do dig $DVDs.z.zoy.org ; done | \
      perl -ne 's/\.//g; print pack("H224",$1) if(/^x([^z]*)/)' | gunzip

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From: Tom Gafford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: laser with lpd setup
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 09:08:48 -0800

I have a linux laser printer / lpd printer setup question. (didn't see any
printer items in linux setup newsgroup, just a lot of kernel woe, so I'm
posting here): 

I see 2 ways of setting up a lpd printer - for HP printers, directly in
printcap with apparently only a single queue, and for other (like my apple
LW16/600), the wierd crock of setting up a 'remote' queue, and then using
aps printer resources configured to output to the remote queue.  My
understanding is that I print to /dev/lp, which shoves data at the aps
service through one queue, which processes my file, and then spools the
resulting postscript in the remote queue, where lpd shoves it raw to the
daemon built into my printer.


The documentation at SuSE sez this is because when lpd spools to an external
printer service, it thinks it is a computer that will post-process the file,
so it doesn't invoke any processing on the source computer.  seems like it
would have been easier to hack lpd to know the difference between dumb
embedded daemons and computer hosted printers.

it looks like the recommended HP setup avoids this double-queueing.  am I
wrong on this?  Is there something about the lpd service in HP printers that
permits this whereas the lpd service in apple and other printers does not?

and while i'm on the topic, spooled files in my 'remote' queue don't get
deleted after they are printed.  seems like this is something lpd should be
doing, but it ain't. any suggestions?


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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Processor ID
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 16:30:28 GMT

Kasper Dupont writes:
> Too me that sounds like a bad design, a program runing in user space
> should not have access to that information without the kernels knowledge.

The whole point of the facility is to allow exactly that.
-- 
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin

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