Linux-Hardware Digest #523, Volume #14           Sun, 25 Mar 01 00:13:04 EST

Contents:
  scanner hp deskjet 4300c
  cd writer hp 9110c
  Re: Mysterious HDD noise ("J Smith")
  Re: Suse vs RH/Mandrake ? (or what's so great about 7.2) (Charlie Ebert)
  Re: Linux 7.0 on NoteBook (Richard Carter)
  Re: Maxtor's Ultra ATA100 (Kirk I Reiten)
  Re: RH7.0 - Problem with Modem - Please help!!! (Jim Jerzycke)
  Re: Help with HP Colorado 8gig Tape Drive (Jim Jerzycke)
  Re: cd writer hp 9110c ("NyQuist")
  Re: Help!!! weird beeping noises and other oddities ("Eil")
  Re: general protection faults and random reboots ("Eil")
  Re: Radeon 3D acceleration ? (Vladimir Florinski)
  Re: Mysterious HDD noise (Brad Sims)
  Re: Help setting up USB, almost there?!  (Long message, includes some  .config/logs) 
(David Efflandt)

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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: scanner hp deskjet 4300c
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 01:30:04 -0000

i've installed the SANE and Xsane program by RPM format, but Xsane don't 
work because it tell me that don't find devices. I Think to have done all 
that I should have to do, but my scanner don't work. there is someone that 
can halp me? thanks..

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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: cd writer hp 9110c
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 01:30:04 -0000

linux see my cdwriter hp 9110c as cdrom but i don't know how it could be 
seen as cdwriter. i've scsi support ableted on my kernel, but th program 
for burn cd don't find my cdwriter... why ? i hope someone could help me

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From: "J Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mysterious HDD noise
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 17:36:54 -0800

The hard drive is probably dying. Linux is very heroic in using the hard
ware. I had bad RAM and it worked only in Linux.

But other people say that Linux demands perfect hardware since Linux taxes
it more.

The best bet is to get a new hard drive.



"Taavi Hein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:99jfp7$f2d$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> What could be wrong with the hard drive, everything is fine in Linux, but
in
> W98, after a period of time, it starts clicking and ticking (pretty
loudly)
> every few minutes (comparing to a car - as if someone pressed down the
> clutch at a high speed and then in a second or so, released it again),
it's
> beginning to worry me.
>
> Hoping, that someone can explain this :(
>
> --
> Taavi Hein
> Registered Linux user #209546
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charlie Ebert)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Suse vs RH/Mandrake ? (or what's so great about 7.2)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 02:52:08 GMT

In article <99j7co$73g$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Hong wrote:
>peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>>I've heard great things about the new Suse distro., but I was told by
>>someone that I should use the same distro that I use at work.  At work
>>we use Red Hat, at home I just setup Mandrake 7.1, but everyone says
>>the new Suse distro is good and also Mandrake 7.2 is good. 
>
>       In my opinion, if you are comparing between Red Hat/Mandrake to
>SuSE, stay with Red Hat/Mandrake.  SuSE has recently been becoming more of
>a commercial distribution with little willingness to put out any GPL'ed
>versions of their version of Linux.  The only ISO they have available for
>anyone to download is a live evaluation one, meaning, you boot into Linux
>from the CDROM, but you can't actually install it into your computer.
>       That is not to say that it is a bad distribution, it is in fact
>quite good.  However, Red Hat and Mandrake both still release GPL'ed
>versions of their distributions that one can install into their machines.
>If you are already familiar with Red Hat/Mandrake, then there is little
>reason to go with SuSE.
>

I've had the opportunity to use Suse 7.1 and I think it's a fine 
desktop distribution.  I believe they've come to a point in time
where as a server application it's lacking.  

Suse doesn't have such features like PERL-SSL so you can run 
a secure WEBMIN.  In fact they don't even have WEBMIN.

They don't have telnet-ssl either.

They do have ssh.

And their KDE2 desktop is very lavish with just ton's of userland
applications, a built in piano...  Very nice...
It's definitely a USERS/WORKSTATION OS.  Does a very good job of
that.

I'm using Debian which is the only OS which has these missing features
stock.  Telnet-ssl, PERL-SSL, so on...

Debian is also a much better development environment as they fully
support PERL, PYTHON, and over 1/2 dozen compilers for different
languages.  

Debian is going to have native REISER support with the next release
along with the 2.4 kernel.  

The only thing I would like Debian to include in their distribution
is the various userland features like those different skins for XMMS
or Suse's 96 different desktop themes for each of it's windows manager
or even the complete set of screen savers.

Debian is VERY capable in the services area.  It beats Suse as of right now.
But to make them equally GOOD in both worlds they need some more userland
features as well.  

The other things with disturb me about Suse server side is the location
of the HTTPD and FTP directories in /usr/local...
Debian has their HTTPD in /var/www and the ftp is in a home directory.
I believe Redhat is the same.

I don't like having these kinds of directories in /usr/local.

I also conducted a test on a 486 machine with 5 megs of ram and found
out that Suse 7.1 would not install on this system, even with the
necessary swap space to make it above 16 megs.  Debian on the other
hand would install on this computer with no trouble at all.

I believe slackware and Debian are the only two OS's left which continue
to support older hardware.

One of the kings of running Linux is it's support of older hardware.

After having spent a week of comparing the two OS's, I'm even more
committed toward Debian than ever before.  Debian 2.2R2 with the 2.2.18
kernel alongside Suse 7.1 with the 2.4.0 kernel on identical PC's proved
to me that the XENGINE scores were in Debian's favor.  File performance,
net performance, were so close between the two systems you wonder where
the performance went with their 2.4.0 kernel?

The final thing to be said in favor of Debian is it's superior support
across different kinds of computers.  Debian covers over a dozen
PC's and mainframe computers.  Suse supports 2 or 3 kinds of PC's.

As a user, I was tempted with Suse's latest KDE2 desktop and features.
But I have to remember that in just a short month or two, Debian will
release Woody and all these features will be there also.  They just
won't have 96 different desktop skins to choose from.

Something to think about.

Charlie
 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Carter)
Subject: Re: Linux 7.0 on NoteBook
Date: 25 Mar 2001 03:19:40 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Raymond Chia ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: I am planning to get a notebook that supports Linux Redhat 7.0 version. I
: went for a recent PC fair and approached some technical staff from
: Toshiba,IBM,HP & DELL on the support for the installation, but to my
: surprise none of them are sure about Linux OS. Can someone tell me which
: model of Notebook supports the installation for Linux Redhat version 6 or
: ver 7 series ,and whether does it supports USB Floppy Diskette Drive?

Take a look around at http://www.linux-laptop.net/

I'm getting ready to install Linux, haven't yet, but I found two links
that talked about having good success installing Linux on a Panasonic
Toughbook CF-71, which is what I have.  One guy said he was unable to
get the sound working right when also using a PC card, but other than
that, it sounds like it worked pretty well.
--
Rick Carter
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Kirk I Reiten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Maxtor's Ultra ATA100
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 03:37:42 GMT

Andrey,

Ummmm,,,, UDMA  -- what flag is that?  I'm looking in the IDE, ATA and ATAPI
Block devices????

I have Enhanced IDE/MFM/RLL ............................
Include IDE/ATA-2............
Use multi-mode...........
SCSI emulation.............
Generic PCI IDE..........
Sharing PCI IDE...........
Generic PCI bus-master DMA.....
Use PCI DMA by default.......

setting  hdparm -a 1 -m 16 -u 1 -d 1 .... /dev/hde
then doing a hdparm -tT /dev/hde     didn't come back.....    It took a few
minutes to terminate after hitting break.  I retrirn the test and my box
frose.

Any thoughts.

Thanks

Kirk


Andrey Vlassov wrote:

> Did you try to play with hdparm? IF not try - you will jump from 5MB/s
> to 27MB/s
>
> hdparm -a 1 -m 16 -u 1 -d 1 .... /dev/hda
>
> I was able get 35-36MB/s on KT7-RAID with IBM ATA100 HDDs (Only from
> console - X11 take sone HDD bandwidth for swap)
>
> You should gett better performance, but check that your kernel
> configured to support UDMA mode.
>
> Andrey
>
> Kirk I Reiten wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I bought a Maxtor 60gig internal from CompUSA and it had an UltraATA100
> > controller in the package... The controller seems to have problems with
> > the Linux driver for the Promise UltraATA100 card.  If I leave the
> > driver out, the card & drive works but at 5mb/sec and it hogs the CPU...
> >
> > The BIOS reports
> >
> > Ultra 100 (tm) BIOS Version 2.01 (BUILD 27)
> > Maxtor Ultra ATA 100 Controller by
> > (c) 1999-2000 Promise Technology Inc. All Rights Reserved
> >
> > It seems to want to use DMA5 however, my soundcard needs that channel...
> >
> > I run RH7 with a 2.4.1 kernel
> >
> > Any ideas???
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Kirk
>
> -


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From: Jim Jerzycke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RH7.0 - Problem with Modem - Please help!!!
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 03:42:34 +0000

I have a friend using one of these with SuSE. He found instructions on
how to set it up on their site.
Jim

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From: Jim Jerzycke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help with HP Colorado 8gig Tape Drive
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 03:45:49 +0000

You have to use scsi emulation to get this drive to work. Go to the SuSE
website and search the sdb for "colorado" to see where to add the lines
in LILO.
Jim

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From: "NyQuist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: cd writer hp 9110c
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 04:41:08 +0100

If linux has 'seen' it and it's your only scsi device (probably is) it'll be
defined as /dev/scd0 (that's a zero not an O) Try specifying /dev/scd0 as
your cddrive in linuxconf (depending on which linux you use) and in whatever
cd-writing software you have.
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> linux see my cdwriter hp 9110c as cdrom but i don't know how it could be
> seen as cdwriter. i've scsi support ableted on my kernel, but th program
> for burn cd don't find my cdwriter... why ? i hope someone could help me
>
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From: "Eil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help!!! weird beeping noises and other oddities
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 20:55:19 +0700

In article <l7No6.26451$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Lionel Hutz"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> "Tim Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Lionel Hutz wrote:
>> >
>> > ok, here is the situation, i recently managed  to upgrade my cpu and
> mobo
>> > (p3 866/asus cuv4x-e,and new case,cdrom,floppy) my computer runs
> mandrake
>> > 7.2 and win2000, (7.2 installed over 7.0 today)
>> > since the new hardware change linux has behaved somewhat oddly, the
> system
>>
>> What was your old cpu/mobo/cdrom etc?  also post dmesg output
>> --
>> timothymoore
>>    bigfoot
>>      com
> 
> 
> 
> Old cpu was pentium2 400, pc partner BxaS13 mobo (cheapie) , old cdrom
> was creative 32 spin dont know what dmesg is, i will find out though and
> post it. also, the beeping now happens about a minute and a half if
> idle, 3 quick beeps and then the screen goes blank, if i move the mouse
> a little, one more beep and everything is back to normal. And the R key
> and G key are screwed up in terminal aswell even as root or user.

It sounds to me like your kernel is having problems with the power
management of either your motherboard or video card. Try recompiling the
kernel with only the essentials and see if that makes the weird stuff go
away. If it does, keep adding things, a few at a time to the kernel to
see if the weirdness kicks in. When/if it does, isolate what kernel
option(s) do it and submit a bug report to Linux Mandrake.

But I could be way off on this issue, like everything else... That's just
the first thing I would try.

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From: "Eil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: general protection faults and random reboots
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 21:07:36 +0700

In article
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Howard
Cheng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   Recently, I have started having general protection faults and random
> reboots while I play real video movies.  I am running RH 6.2 with kernel
> 2.2.17-14 and all updates applied.  When I run realplay, I often get
> messages like the following when I typed dmesg:
> 
>   CPU 0: Machine Check Exception: 0000000400000000<0>Bank 1:
>   f200000000000115general protection fault: 0000
> CPU:    0 EIP:    0010:[<c010d7ff>] EFLAGS: 00210246 eax: 00000115  
> ebx: 72000000   ecx: 00000405   edx: 72000000 esi: 00000004   edi:
> 00000003   ebp: 00000001   esp: c13dff98 ds: 0018   es: 0018   ss: 0018
> Process realplay (pid: 12056, process nr: 38, stackpage=c13df000) Stack:
> 0829c068 bffff108 00000005 c13de000 00000405 00000000 00000004 00000115 
>        c0108f89 c13dffc4 00000000 40315880 402b3784 0829c06a bffff1a4
>        0829c068  bffff108 0829c07b c010002b 0000002b ffffffff 402b1ff0
>        00000023 00210293 
> Call Trace: [<c0108f89>] [<c010002b>]  Code: 0f 30 a1 64 71 1c c0 89 44
> 24 10 45 3b 6c 24 10 0f 8c 3b ff 
> 
> There are also times in which my computer just spontaneously reboots.
> 
> This seems to indicate some hardware problems.  I have downloaded
> memtest86 and ran it for a day without finding any problems with the
> memory.
> 
> Another note: I upgraded from 2.2.16 last week, I don't know if this may
> be the problem...
> 
> Any help to track down this problem (hardware or software) would be
> deeply appreciated.
> 
> Howard
> 
> ---
> Howard Cheng              e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> University of Waterloo    URL   : http://www.scg.uwaterloo.ca/~hchcheng/
> Computer Science Graduate Student (PhD)
> 
> Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not
> tried it.
>                                           - Donald Knuth
> 

This is almost certainly a hardware problem. Since you say that your
computer reboots, I'm inclined to believe that your motherboard may be
bad. I think most memory and CPU malfunctions would merely freeze the
machine solid, possibly causing the kernel to do some complaining. The
best solution is to find a similar machine and start doing some
parts-swapping. In lieu of that, any computer service center will be 
able to troubleshoot the problem for you.

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From: Vladimir Florinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Radeon 3D acceleration ?
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 20:47:56 -0700

anonymous wrote:
> 
> I'm trying to find information on enabling and optimizing 3D acceleration on
> Radeon 64-DDR.
> I found Non-Free 3D solution at www.xig.com but I am trying to do this oon
> XFree86 4.0.2

You need 4.0.3 for that. BTW, when you get it going, would you mind posting some
scores (e.g., Quake3 framerates)? I wonder how this card fares against the
nvidias.
-- 


Vladimir

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Subject: Re: Mysterious HDD noise
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brad Sims)
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 04:22:08 GMT

"J Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in 
<99ji4j$7b9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>The best bet is to get a new hard drive.
>

I just got a new Maxtor 7200rpm 60gig HD with a ultra ATA/100 
pci adapter card at <rot13> orfg-ohl </rot13> for $250 us

-- 
I sense much distrust in you.  Distrust leads to cynicism,
cynicism leads to bitterness, bitterness leads to the
Awareness Of True Reality which is referred to by
those-who-lack-enlightenment as "paranoia".  I approve. 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Help setting up USB, almost there?!  (Long message, includes some  
.config/logs)
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 04:36:09 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sat, 24 Mar 2001, Walter Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Okay, to add some information to my previous post..
>
>I think that USB itself is okay..  Plugging and unplugging the Smart
>Media adaptor dumps a lot of stuff into the logs about vendor codes,
>etc..  I'm not sure that hotplug recognises the vendor/id though..
>
>My USB keyboard works now, /etc/rc.d/init.d/hotplug status shows lots of
>USB stats, including:
>
>USB up; bus count is 1
>T:  Bus=01 Lev=00 Prnt=00 Port=00 Cnt=00 Dev#=  1 Spd=12  MxCh= 2
>P:  Vendor=0000 ProdID=0000 Rev= 0.00
>S:  Product=USB UHCI Root Hub
>S:  SerialNumber=e400
>I:  If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=09(hub  ) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=hub

Above is your hub, and SmartMedia reader is below.  Note that it says
Driver=(none), it should say Driver=usb-storage (see below)

>T:  Bus=01 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=00 Cnt=01 Dev#= 12 Spd=12  MxCh= 0
>P:  Vendor=04e6 ProdID=0003 Rev= 2.07
>S:  Manufacturer=SCM Microsystems Inc.
>S:  Product=eUSB SmartMedia Adapter
>I:  If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 3 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=01 Prot=01 Driver=(none)

Keyboard apparently (hid is for input devices)
>T:  Bus=01 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=01 Cnt=02 Dev#= 10 Spd=1.5 MxCh= 0
>P:  Vendor=045e ProdID=000b Rev= 1.04
>I:  If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=03(HID  ) Sub=01 Prot=01 Driver=hid
>
>Not sure which lines go with which, but anywho..  I think it must be the
>actual SCSI emulation tying to the USB..  (the scsi-emulation has been
>in use for over a year with my IDE CD burner and is working fine now,
>and normal direct SCSI is working fine with my CD ROM.)
>
>I hope someone can help!  Again, Dane-Elec gave me the email address of
>their driver guy who will share his code, so if this reader isn't
>supported currently it shouldn't be heard to impliment.

04e6 is mfr ID for Shuttle Technology Inc, but there is no product 0003
listed in the current usb-storage info.  The closest is 0006 eUSB
SmartMedia Card Reader.  Maybe you could try duplicating the 0x04e6 0x0006
line in /lib/modules/<kernel_version>/modules.usbmap and change the 0006
to 0003.

But I am new to USB myself, so I am still learning.  I guess I am glad
I got a Microtech pc card SmartMedia adapter instead.  Even though pcmcia
does not find any manufacturer name (product info: "  ", "  ", "") it
still recognizes it as function: 4 (fixed disk) and it mounts fine.

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