Linux-Hardware Digest #533, Volume #14 Tue, 27 Mar 01 10:13:05 EST
Contents:
Re: Suse vs RH/Mandrake ? (or what's so great about 7.2) (Matthew Gardiner)
Audio CD play only 1 track ! (Georges Landa)
MSI K7T motherboard problems (VIA KT133 chipset) (Stefan Boresch)
Printer-Driver-for CANON BJC-150, where2find?? ("kongret")
searching for SUZE kernel including MCA motherboard ("syco")
Re: Netgear FA311 ethernet card Not working (DJG)
Hardware support ("Apollo Hoogland")
Re: searching for SUZE kernel including MCA motherboard (Young4ert)
Suse Linux 7.1 and kernel 2.4 >> help needed for linmodem ("Markku Holm")
Help! CDRecord - mp3-to-wav Conversion Problem! (Doug Mitton)
Re: RH 6.1 doesn't recognize ncr53c8xx scsi controller on Compaq ML370 (sysadmin)
Re: ATI Radeon + Linux (Michael Meissner)
Re: need printserver reccomendation (Michael Meissner)
Re: Help! CDRecord - mp3-to-wav Conversion Problem! (Melinda and Davin)
Re: linux with athlon (James O'Reilly)
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From: Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Suse vs RH/Mandrake ? (or what's so great about 7.2)
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 20:29:55 +1200
Well, they have Domino Server, Notes Server, and they have IBM Websphere running
on Linux using wine (that is, IBM Websphere). Even if they released a wine
version of Lotus Smart Suite (in the short term), then in the long term, they port
it properly over to Linux, you would find that more users would move to Linux,
I know one place, Australia Surf Life Saving that use Lotus Smart Suite for their
Office Suite, which would benefit from it being ported to Linux, and knowing one
of the directors there, he is quite keep to cut costs, and is open to new ideas
and concepts. Maybe this could be a new avenue Lotus should go down.
GreyCloud wrote:
> Matthew Gardiner wrote:
> >
> > Whats wrong with StarOffice? even though alot of people dish-it, it is the
> > only Office Suite that is one more than one platform, and that, all of them
> > are at the same level of compatibility and features. As for all the
> > complaints, I use StarOffice on a regular basis, and find nothing wrong with
> > it. Compared to Office 2000, I would use StarOffice any day of the week.
> > Atleast there are no macro virus's for StarOffice, security holes, forced
> > registration, it is very stable (unlike Office 2000). NOW, if Lotus released
> > Smart Suite for Linux, I would definately buy it, as I have Lotus Smart Suite
> > loaded on my other b0x (Windows 2000 Pro, Duron 850 w/ 64 MB RAM), it works
> > like a dream. Its rather unfortunate that Lotus is too short sighted, as
> > they would make a killing if it was made available for Linux.
> >
> > Matthew Gardiner
> >
>
> Aye! I've got Lotus Smart Suite also and came bundled with my IBM. Very
> Good package.
> The one program I really like is the Day Planner. Yes, it would be
> nice... hmmmmm....
> I wonder, since IBM is supporting Linux and pretty much supports Lotus
> and the $2billion investments, do you suppose that that is happening???
>
> > GreyCloud wrote:
> >
> > > Tim Hanson wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I am an enthusiastic SuSE user, although I make no money off SuSE. Add
> > > > salt to taste.
> > > >
> > > > peter wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I've heard great things about the new Suse distro,
> > > >
> > > > That is correct. It is quite an advance and will be hard to compete
> > > > against, especially for getting new users to try Linux. For me, as a
> > > > user since 5.1, it is just an upgrade, although this time I bought a DVD
> > > > player so the update went much faster. The books alone are worth the
> > > > price.
> > > >
> > > > > but I was told by
> > > > > someone that I should use the same distro that I use at work.
> > > >
> > > > There will be some differences and some similarities. Linus Torvalds
> > > > has said he uses Red Hat at work (Transmeta) and SuSE at home. I don't
> > > > know if that's still true or not.
> > > >
> > > > Generally, there will be a slight but not overpowering learning curve.
> > > > Both are rpm-type systems. SuSE uses one big /etc/rc.config file. SuSE
> > > > has gotten more KDE-centric over the last year, although GNOME is
> > > > up-to-date and available on the disk. For myself, old dog that I am, I
> > > > still use FVWM2, although I like and use a lot of the GNOME
> > > > applications.
> > > >
> > > > I have a copy of Debian on one of my computers, which was a little more
> > > > difficult.
> > > >
> > > > > At work
> > > > > we use Red Hat, at home I just setup Mandrake 7.1, but everyone says
> > > > > the new Suse distro is good and also Mandrake 7.2 is good.
> > > >
> > > > I think both are iterations of the 2.4 kernel.
> > > >
> > > > SuSE's advantage is raw bang for the buck and lately add ease of
> > > > installation for newbies. The Professional Edition has seven packed CDs
> > > > or one DVD (all supplied). Through YaST you can add and subtract
> > > > packages without worrying about dependencies and conflicts. For me that
> > > > has meant the ability to just leave the DVD in the drive permanently and
> > > > install things when needed. For someone with a modem connection, all
> > > > those packages locally will save a _lot_ of download time.
> > > >
> > > > > What are the differences of these distros and versions ?
> > > > >
> > > > > Is there a different file structure or something different in each
> > > > > distro that will mess up my learning curve ?
> > > >
> > > > I don't know about the other distros, but with SuSE you can get a
> > > > running system going now and worry about the learning curve later.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Is the new software in mandrake 7.2 (or Suse) all that ?
> > > > >
> > > > > Which is faster, I've got a few older machine I would like to install
> > > > > Linux on (P166/32 megs, etc) ?
> > > >
> > > > I don't think it matters that much. All three of these use mostly the
> > > > same stuff. I think Star Office is a lost cause. :-)
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Show respect for age. Drink good Scotch for a change.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Good scotch,... yes.
> > >
> > > I used to have Star Office 5.1 installed, but didn't like it.
> > > Sun has since taken over Star Office and it is now 5.2. I don't have it
> > > but I hear its a big improvement. And Sun offers it either as a free
> > > download or buy the CD. Suns' people are now in progress of
> > > implementing a better interface for it as i've been told. But I can't
> > > give any usability reports on it. Maybe someone else who has 5.2 can
> > > relate?
>
> --
> V
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From: Georges Landa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Audio CD play only 1 track !
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 11:14:08 +0100
Dear all,
when I put an Audio CDROM in the player I got the followin behavior :
1) With xplaycd(2.1) : it says no disk !
2) with gtcd : it play the first track and stop !
any hint ?
could it be related to :
a) the kernel ?
b) the modules loaded ?
c) the X player ?
cordially,
Georges
My config :
RedHat 7.0 for Alpha, kernel-2.2.17-14.
CDROM Toshiba XM-5702B 3476
Module Size Used by
parport 11584 0
de4x5 57776 1 (autoclean)
st 32672 0 (unused)
opl3 14992 0
sb 49616 0
uart401 8192 0 [sb]
sound 88064 0 [opl3 sb uart401]
soundlow 624 0 [sound]
soundcore 4176 6 [sb sound]
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Lab. de Physique des solides, associe au CNRS, UMR5477
Universite Paul Sabatier email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
118 route de Narbonne URL : http://www.lpst.ups-tlse.fr
31062 Toulouse cedex, France
http://www.lpst.ups-tlse.fr/SFP/sfpmidi.html
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From: Stefan Boresch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: MSI K7T motherboard problems (VIA KT133 chipset)
Date: 27 Mar 2001 11:22:59 +0200
Just curious whether anyone has had any problems with MSI K7T(Pro)
motherboards for Athlons/Durons (or, possibly, the VIA KT133 chipset):
At my department we have by now 5(!) such machines that have died
suddenly: The machine runs normally, *no* sign of any problems (i.e.,
syslog messages or unexplained crashes), then the screen goes black
and the motherboard is history (all status LEDs on the board are plain
red). Four of these machines were bought together last summer, so for
these I accept a bad batch of motherboards as explanation. But
another machine, bought around Christmas has died as well. All
machines were severely stress tested immediately after the purchase
and have been running since then under average load for our group
(they run 24hours a day, about half the time they are used for long
number crunching jobs)
Aside from general curiosity, is anyone aware of (hidden) kernel problems
with the via kt133 chipset? The machines were running 2.2.16 or 2.2.18
(the latter is necessary to get the agpgart module working)
Thanks,
Stefan
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Institute for Theoretical Chemistry and Structural Molecular Biology
University of Vienna, Waehringerstr. 17 A-1090 Vienna, Austria
Phone: -43-1-427752715 Fax: -43-1-427752790
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ("kongret")
Subject: Printer-Driver-for CANON BJC-150, where2find??
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:34:57 +0000 (UTC)
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Hayhoo,
My machine runs with SUSE 6.4.
I'm looking 4 a driver for my printer. It's Canon BJC 150.
No Canon - Site is equiped with it.
Anyone else out in space who got da same problem??
Can't imagine that not !!
thx so far....
gerald
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From: "syco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.suse
Subject: searching for SUZE kernel including MCA motherboard
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 12:13:08 +0100
I have a PC with MicroChannel Architecture ( MCA ) mainboard and SCSI disks.
My machine runs fine with slackware Linux, no problem : slackware provides a
kernel, on the web, for MCA machines
But I have other problems with SAMBA, Internet, dialling, ... so : I will
this machine goes running SUSE ( 'cause I have SUSE too, that is simpliest
for all that stuff ).
BUT ... how can I obtain a kernel for MCA under SUSE 7.0 : nothing found on
the SUSE site, and nothing in support or knowledge databases.
Who can help me please.
Thank for help.
SYCO
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From: DJG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Netgear FA311 ethernet card Not working
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 05:56:06 -0500
Ok, After banging my head against the wall on this one for a few hours I
finally got it to work. I was having the exact same problems mentioned
below (dereferencing pointers, etc...)
I'm not a linux guru or anything so please bare with what was probably a
sloppy method. It worked though.
First I downloaded the most recent driver from the netgear home page:
http://www.netgear-support.com/ts/downloads/fa311lx.zip
I extracted the file, then executed the following commands
del FA311.O
mv FA311.H fa311.h
mv FA311.C fa311.c
make
/usr/include/linux/modversions.h:1:2: #error Modules should never use
kernel-headers system headers.
/usr/include/linux/modversions.h:2:2: #error but headers from an
appropriate kernel-source
It didn't work of course, so I did this:
mv /usr/include /usr/oldinclude
ln -s /usr/src/linux/include /usr/include
then again,
make
this time I only got a warning
/tmp/ccBAFORL.s: Assembler messages:
/tmp/ccBAFORL.s:19: Warning: Ignoring changed section attributes for
.modinfo
then undo renaming...
rm /usr/include
mv /usr/oldinclude /usr/include
finally..
mv fa311.o /lib/modules/2.2.16-22/net
/etc/init.d/network stop
insmod fa311
/etc/init.d/network start
...edit /etc/modules.conf
I did all this on a Redhat 7.0 system.
I hope this helps a least someone.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> "Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
> >
> > In comp.os.linux.hardware aflinsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > "Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
> > >> DO it again, this time correctly! Compile against the sources of your
> > >> running kernel, not against something else. It's likely you are being
> >
> > > He could try, but it won't work. The supplied source does not compile.
> >
> > It most certainly DOES compile. Or do you imagine that the writers did
> > it blindfold?
>
> Odd, when I tried it, it would not, in fact, gave me about 1000 lines
> of assorted warnings and errors, mostly involving dreferencing
> pointers of incomplete types.
> Looking into the source code reveals a comment in the "Unsupported
> Features section", listing 1.xx.xx and 2.2.xx kernels as being
> unsupported. It does claim to have been tested on a 2.0.36 kernel.
> Perhaps it will compile with that set of kernel headers, but it will
> not with the 2.2.17 kernel supplied with Mandrake 7.2.
>
>
>
>
> >
> > > He needs to snag the Redhat 7.0 version and recompile.
> >
>
> Which uses a 2.2.xx kernel, and will compile using what was supplied
> with Mandrake 7.2
>
>
> > No. He needs to ...
> >
> > >> befuddled by your distributors use of one set of kernel header files in
> > >> /usr/include/linux, and another set in /usr/src/linux/include.
> >
> > unbefuddle himself (and redhat).
>
> Agreed.... Especially the redhat part.
>
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From: "Apollo Hoogland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Hardware support
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 13:26:43 +0200
Where can I find a list of all hardware that is supported by linux?
If there isn't such a list please what hardware can gives conflicts:
- Alcatel USB Modem
- Epson Stylus Color 400
- HP 8200 Cd-rewriter
- Lite-on 12x DVD-Rom
- Geforce Pro from Hercules (Guillemot)
- Abit mobo (with on-board sound)
- Realtek 10/100 (Level One)
- Matrox HD (30Gb)
- Seagate HD (45 Gb)
I'm the most affraid from the ADSL Modem, the soundcard on the mobo and the
network card. I'm not capable to write my own drivers (I can program in C
but not SO good)
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From: Young4ert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: searching for SUZE kernel including MCA motherboard
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.suse
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 12:03:04 GMT
syco wrote:
> I have a PC with MicroChannel Architecture ( MCA ) mainboard and SCSI
> disks.
>
> My machine runs fine with slackware Linux, no problem : slackware provides
> a kernel, on the web, for MCA machines
> But I have other problems with SAMBA, Internet, dialling, ... so : I will
> this machine goes running SUSE ( 'cause I have SUSE too, that is simpliest
> for all that stuff ).
>
> BUT ... how can I obtain a kernel for MCA under SUSE 7.0 : nothing found
> on the SUSE site, and nothing in support or knowledge databases.
> Who can help me please.
>
> Thank for help.
> SYCO
>
Get the Linux kernel source code, and recompile it with MCA support enable
under the "General setup" menu.
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From: "Markku Holm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Suse Linux 7.1 and kernel 2.4 >> help needed for linmodem
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 11:51:39 GMT
Hello everybody,
If somebody can help me please send me a reply via E-mail.
I installed to my PC Linux Suse 7.1 and I chose the kernel 2.4.
Linux was installed on a clean hardisk and the installation was normal to "
/" root.
The modem installation files are in "/modem/".
My problem are two words in the modem installation text
"kernel-headers-version" and
"kernel-sources-version". How do i write correctly the following paths
correctly for Suse Linux?
The modem requires the 2 following settings (paths);
====================================================
A symbolic link is necessary, made with:
ln -s /usr/src/kernel-headers-version /usr/src/linux
=====================================================
How do i write the above command line correctly?
======================================================
After installation of the sources folder somewhere, set the
following MANDATORY symbolic link as Root, and with the
text on one line:
ln -sf /PATHtoFolderWith/kernel-sources-version/
/usr/src/linux
This linkage is Necessary both for compiling ltmodem.o through its own
Makefile, and for compiling custom kernels.
========================================================
How do i write the above command line correctly?
Please reply by E-mail to;
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Doug Mitton)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Help! CDRecord - mp3-to-wav Conversion Problem!
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 14:11:36 GMT
Hello All;
I'm using some instructions I found in an earlier post to try to
convert some mp3's to wav and burn them to a CD using cdrecord. I
have come across a problem that was not addressed.
I convert the mp3 files to wave with:
splay -t 1000 -d - file.mp3 | sox -t raw -r 44100 -s -w -c 2 -
file.wav
I issue this command to burn the data:
cdrecord -v speed=4 dev=0,0,0 -audio *.wav
But, cdrecord responds with:
cdrecord: Bad audio track size 31707648 for track 01.
cdrecord: Audio tracks must be at least 705600 bytes and a multiple of
2352.
I can burn audio CD's normally if I get the data using the cdda2wav
utility.
Any pointer would be appreciated as to how I should change the size of
the resulting wav file, I didn't see an obvious switch in the splay or
sox commands.
Thanks in advance.
PS. I realize I can probably install some other utilities to do this
BUT this solution is supposed to work and until I understand what is
wrong here I'd like to try and make this approach work. Also, using
this method I can batch process files a lot easier.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (sysadmin)
Subject: Re: RH 6.1 doesn't recognize ncr53c8xx scsi controller on Compaq ML370
Date: 27 Mar 2001 09:36:02 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <99nld8$bov$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Darren Jacobs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hello all,
>
>I've run into a problem with the RH6.1 installation program while installing
>on a compaq ML-370. It does not seem to recognize the card, so when it
>comes time to partition the disk (even using fdisk) no drives are
>recognized. I know that it isn't a hardware problem as I installed RH 7 on
>the box as a test and it installed with no problems. Any suggestions?
>
>Darren.....
There's a patch for this at Compaq. It's in the Compaq documentation.
Go to:
http://www5.compaq.com/products/servers/linux/
you'll find the info there
Adam
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Subject: Re: ATI Radeon + Linux
From: Michael Meissner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 27 Mar 2001 09:44:33 -0500
Joseph <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> as an interim fix RadeonAIW will work with the vesa driver, i use it
> with with my irongate/ath-800. i have had mucho problems getting
> the X-4.0.2 from XFree86.rog to run. may try sourceforge
> 1280x1024 24bit color is my usual mode.
> Joseph
Note, 2.4.2-ac25, which is Alan Cox's set of patches against 2.4.2 (and
presumably others in the -AC series) has a native frame buffer driver for the
radeon. Since I don't have a radeon, I can't say how well it works.
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PMB 198, 174 Littleton Road #3, Westford, Massachusetts 01886, USA
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Subject: Re: need printserver reccomendation
From: Michael Meissner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 27 Mar 2001 09:55:59 -0500
bluto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> We have a small network of 6 computers
> originally we had 2 printers attached to a 7th win98 pc
> that was only used as a print server..
> Recently we come upon an Intel Netport Express XL print server
> which replaced the win98 pc.. However the XL still had to be connected
> to a pc with netBIOS: qouted from Intel's page
> "The XL requires either a Novell server,
> or NetBIOS station, even if all printing
> will be via TCP/IP or AppleTalk."
> WE are looking for reccomendatins of a good stand alone printserver..
> Or can the XL be modified to be used this way??
>
I have a LinkSys EFSP42, which is a 4 port ethernet switch and 2 port print
server combination box that was roughly $130, and it doesn't need a netBios
station to print from either Windows or Linux. I must admit, it works great
for one of my printers (Lexmark Optra 40), and only so-so for my other (Okidata
20dxn). The problem seems to be the Linksys doesn't have an option to close
the port at the end of the job, leaves the printer waiting for more input, and
eventually timing out.
Of course this being a Linux group, another option is to enable SMB support on
a Linux box, and add additional LPT ports and use it as a print server.
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PMB 198, 174 Littleton Road #3, Westford, Massachusetts 01886, USA
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From: Melinda and Davin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Help! CDRecord - mp3-to-wav Conversion Problem!
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 08:09:48 -0700
Another option is to use the wave output option on xmms.
You can load your playlist and dump all output to files.
Davin Carter
Doug Mitton wrote:
Hello All;
>
> I'm using some instructions I found in an earlier post to try to
> convert some mp3's to wav and burn them to a CD using cdrecord. I
> have come across a problem that was not addressed.
>
> I convert the mp3 files to wave with:
> splay -t 1000 -d - file.mp3 | sox -t raw -r 44100 -s -w -c 2 -
> file.wav
>
> I issue this command to burn the data:
> cdrecord -v speed=4 dev=0,0,0 -audio *.wav
>
> But, cdrecord responds with:
> cdrecord: Bad audio track size 31707648 for track 01.
> cdrecord: Audio tracks must be at least 705600 bytes and a multiple of
> 2352.
>
> I can burn audio CD's normally if I get the data using the cdda2wav
> utility.
>
> Any pointer would be appreciated as to how I should change the size of
> the resulting wav file, I didn't see an obvious switch in the splay or
> sox commands.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> PS. I realize I can probably install some other utilities to do this
> BUT this solution is supposed to work and until I understand what is
> wrong here I'd like to try and make this approach work. Also, using
> this method I can batch process files a lot easier.
> ------------------------------------------------
> The FACTS are my Employers, OPINIONS are my own!
>
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From: James O'Reilly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux with athlon
Date: 27 Mar 2001 15:09:12 GMT
Thanks for your helpful responses. Do you use the Thunderbird chip?
Jim O'Reilly
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