Linux-Hardware Digest #538, Volume #14           Wed, 28 Mar 01 15:13:03 EST

Contents:
  Re: Kernel too big ("NyQuist")
  Re: sound modules ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Goin Shoppin ("KW")
  Serial Port ("Jan R Pedersen")
  Re: RedHat 6.2 installation video card ("SilentNight")
  Re: Frustrating basic printer service problems! :*( (Vilmos Soti)
  Video Cards Final choice Higher end TNT2 or lower end GeForce (mike)
  Re: LILO (See signature for email address)
  Re: How to hot-swap SCSI drives (See signature for email address)
  Re: Frustrating basic printer service problems! :*( (John Culleton)
  Re: Suse vs RH/Mandrake ? (or what's so great about 7.2) (John Hong)
  Re: Suse vs RH/Mandrake ? (or what's so great about 7.2) (John Hong)
  ALS 2001 Call for Papers (Becca Sibrack)
  Re: Suse vs RH/Mandrake ? (or what's so great about 7.2) ("Scot Mc Pherson")
  Re: Video Cards Final choice Higher end TNT2 or lower end GeForce ("Michael")

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From: "NyQuist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Kernel too big
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 17:11:14 +0100

do a make mrproper; make xconfig and recheck what kernel parameters you
want; but this time, don't include so many things into the kernel; have them
load as modules. The kernel too large problem comes from having too many
things included in the kernel. I'd also check what the help says; you prolly
won't need that many things included in the kernel anyway; i think the
largest you can have it is about 1M, mine's ~ 450k; load most things as
modules (easier configurable that way anyway). make dep; make bzImage; make
modules; make modules_install.

"Alberto Arribas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hello.
>
> Apologies if this is a really basic question. I have compiled a new
> kernel in order to include the drivers of my new CD writer.
> Unfortunately, when I run lilo to build up the system I get the message
> "kernel too big". It occurs when I use zImage to compile the kernel and
> also when I use bzImage. Could you help me to solve this problem?
>
> Thanks a lot,
>
> Al



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: sound modules
Date: 28 Mar 2001 16:17:06 GMT

You're using ALSA, right?  Read the ALSA installation instructions...They
tell
how to edit your /etc/modules.conf.  A quick tutorial...open it into emacs, or
watever,
and take a look at it.  If it says "alias sound-slot-1" and something, you
probably
don't have the module, so rebuild the drivers.  If it doesn't, add it like
this:
     alias sound-slot-1 <card 2>
You probably don't need sound-slot-1, since that's for a second card, and most
people
don't have more than one sound card.

Justin Hibbits


In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Peter Z  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
>Hi,
>modprobe : modprobe: Can' locate module sound-slot-1
>modprobe : modprobe: Can' locate module sound-slot-service-1-0
>
>Where can I find these modules and in wich dir do i the insmod?
>
>I will be thankful if anybody can help me.
>
>Peter
>


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From: "KW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Goin Shoppin
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.help
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 10:30:32 -0600

I agree on the Abit Mobo, I got my KT7A w/ tbird 900 and it was a snap to
clock up to 1Ghz @ 133 on the bus (whats the point of 133 memory on a
100mhz bus?)  I've had no problems with speed, overheating (not even
close), or compiling.  I do not know how well Linux support the KT7A-Raid
but for $20 more you can get that instead.  I'd read up on the Highpoint
Controller used on that Mobo before picking the raid board over the
standard KT7A.  

I HIGHLY recommend an AMD approved cooling fan, even at
it's standard clock rate, a thunderbird will fry in a matter of seconds
with bad/no cooling mechanism.

I also recommend name brand memory.... cheap stuff doesn't cut the
cake....

The cost for my abit board and processor was well below the $300 mark but
I paid for it in service (first board was DOA and despite being A+
certified for 3 years, not to mention the rest of my tech background, I
had to ship all the way to CA and wait 3 weeks to get it back, no cross
ship allowed :(  )

--
KW



In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "olliecat"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html>
> <tt>I'm going to finally break down and build a new box.&nbsp; I've
> never done this before but I think it will be a good learning
> experience.&nbsp; What I'm not so sure of is what components will be
> best suited to run Linux so I wanted to open it up to the Linux
> community for recommendations.&nbsp; I'm thinking this might be a common
> question so pointers to descriptive docs would be much appreciated as
> well as your own personal advice.</tt><tt></tt> <p><tt>I would like to
> get a motherboard/processor that will allow me some growing room.&nbsp;
> I don't want something that will become technically obsolete in two
> years.&nbsp; I heard that AMD might be a good choice here, processor
> wise anyway.&nbsp; Not so sure about the motherboard.&nbsp; I have IDE
> drives now and haven't had a problem but have been informed that for
> drives and other peripherals SCSI is the way to go, which seems
> reasonable.</tt><tt></tt> <p><tt>I want a nice video card (that plays
> nice with XFree86) and a nice sound card.&nbsp; I like to play
> games.&nbsp; I really like the space savings of the newer flat screen
> monitors but understand they might not have as good resolution as the
> standard CRT.&nbsp; I want a nice cd burner, external would be
> preferable, an internal DVD/CD player, as well as a floppy drive.&nbsp;
> Oodles of (cheap but good) memory is important, and nice fast hard
> drive(s) with as much room as possible.&nbsp; I would also like an
> external tape drive to perform backups on.&nbsp; I want to try and do
> all of this for under $2000.&nbsp; The machine, when complete, will be
> used as a developer workstation.</tt><tt></tt>
> <p><tt>Thanks for any advice.</tt></html>

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From: "Jan R Pedersen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Serial Port
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 19:05:11 +0200

Hi

I'm trying to get my modem up running, but it seems like my serial port is
missing a driver !!!!
When I try dialing nothing happens :-(
What can be wrong ?

I'm running
Linux Mandrake 7.2 on a IBM Thinkpad 380ED
with
80 MB Ram
166 Mhz MMX
Serial port is a: 16550A




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From: "SilentNight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: RedHat 6.2 installation video card
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 02:13:31 +0900


"Lambert van der Bruggen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
message news:5bkw6.93$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi,
>
> I am trying to install RedHat 6.2 but have problems to get X properly
> configured (using Xconfigurator). My system details: Compaq S710 display
and
> ATI 3D RAGE Pro AGP video adapter. Which settings to use?
>
> Thanks,
> Lambert
>
>

I had hard time with Xconfig, and learn from my experience that ignoring
Xconfig while installing, but choose the generic monitor that suits your
case, then after that you can let RH probe and all will be fine.

Not sure it works for you. But hope this may help

sn






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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.comp.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Frustrating basic printer service problems! :*(
From: Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 17:26:43 GMT

"Gregg Black" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> One other thing.  I have the line in the /etc/printcap file for specifying
> the standard err log (:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:\), but why isn't this error
> with LPR showing up there?

Does that file actually exists? syslog won't create it for you.

Vilmos

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From: mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Video Cards Final choice Higher end TNT2 or lower end GeForce
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 13:31:07 -0500

Hi,
    I do not want to spend more than about $120 for the card.
Is a low end GeForce card better than a high end TNT@. What's
the best performance for the money?

                                                Thanks
                                                        Mike

P.S. I am using a PC platform Celeron 300


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From: See signature for email address <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LILO
Date: 28 Mar 2001 18:33:45 GMT

Jonadab the Unsightly One <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There may also be floppy diskette images out there that will
> let you boot into a small linux with the ability to install
> LILO, but I don't know where to look for them. 

You can find the boot disk image on the CD-ROM under images 
directory as boot.img and you can find a dos program called 
"rawrite.exe" under dosutils directory that you can use to 
create the boot floppy from boot.img under Windows.

====================================================================
Khalid Aziz                             Linux Development Laboratory
(970)898-9214                                        Hewlett-Packard
[EMAIL PROTECTED]                                    Fort Collins, CO

DISCLAIMER: I express my opinions only. My employers have nothing to do 
                        with my opinions.

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From: See signature for email address <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to hot-swap SCSI drives
Date: 28 Mar 2001 18:45:41 GMT

Dan Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have two SCSI adapters: Adaptec 2940, Tekram DC390U2W(sym53c8xx)..

> If I do a hot-swap of a drive, how do I get the system/card to
> recognize the change?

> Thanks!

> --Dan

To add a device to a bus after you have connected it, try the following:

echo "scsi add-single-device 0 1 2 3" >/proc/scsi/scsi
        * with  "0 1 2 3" replaced by your "Host Channel Id Lun".

To remove a device, you do the following:

Usage: echo "scsi remove-single-device 0 1 2 3" >/proc/scsi/scsi
     * with  "0 1 2 3" replaced by your "Host Channel Id Lun".

These commands are considered BETA.

====================================================================
Khalid Aziz                             Linux Development Laboratory
(970)898-9214                                        Hewlett-Packard
[EMAIL PROTECTED]                                    Fort Collins, CO

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From: John Culleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Frustrating basic printer service problems! :*(
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.comp.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.misc
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 18:05:43 GMT

On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Gregg Black wrote:
>I posted earlier about trying to print to my Epson Stylus Color ESC P2.
>Well, I'm still having this trouble, but I think the problem runs deeper
>than just being this specific printer.
>
>A
>Thanks once again for all your help.

What flavor of Linux? 
Have you tried Apsfilter (www.apsfilter.org)?
 My Epson Stylus Color 880 printer will accept a plain text file: E. G.
cat foo.txt >/dev/lp0

Will your printer respond to this?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hong)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Suse vs RH/Mandrake ? (or what's so great about 7.2)
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 18:45:01 +0000 (UTC)

Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>Whats wrong with paying for SuSE Linux? Geeze, what are you? a cheap skate?

        There is nothing wrong with paying for SuSE.  I'm simply stating
that if one is already familiar with Red Hat/Mandrake than you might not
find the investment worth it since it is still just Linux anyways.

>no wonder investers are werry about investing in Linux business with lusers
>like you too tight to part with $US50.

        You are damn right I have a problem with paying $50 for something
that I know I can get elsewhere for virtually free.

>Also, there is a lot of proprietry software included with SuSE Linux's
>Distro, for example, the configuration tool (Yast2 and Yast1) are not open
>source, also, there is some other packages that can't be freely distributed.
>So, before you open your big gob, survey the situation first.

        I have.  Yast is nice.  If you were to kindly actually read my
whole post you would have found that I said there was nothing wrong with
SuSE.  They do have a good distribution.  But if you already familar with
Red Hat/Mandrake, again, I'll say again you may not find spending the
money on SuSE to be worth it when you could get it the same for almost
free.
        Perhaps it is you who should survey the situation first, as in my
post, before opening *your* big gob.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hong)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Suse vs RH/Mandrake ? (or what's so great about 7.2)
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 18:41:12 +0000 (UTC)

"Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>SuSE usually wait 6 weeks or more before making publicly available
>downloadable versions of their product. 

        They have a publically downloadable version of SuSE 7.1 *right
now*.  The thing is, you can not actually install it on your machine.  It
will only run from a bootable CDROM and no more.  To actually get SuSE 7.1
you have to purchase either the Personal or Professional edition.


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From: Becca Sibrack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ALS 2001 Call for Papers
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 11:23:33 -0800

5th Annual Linux Showcase & Conference (ALS 2001)
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The ALS 2001 Program Committee invites you to contribute your 
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===============================================================

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From: "Scot Mc Pherson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Suse vs RH/Mandrake ? (or what's so great about 7.2)
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 19:23:42 GMT

I definately agree with John's RedHat already installed statement. If you
have ANY working version of linux running on your systems, it would not make
sense to re-install the same distro let alone change to a vastly different
distribution. Once a system is up and running and has been configured for
use, you end up create a LOT of work for yourself by starting again. Sure
you back some stuff up and restore, and that might be fine for same distro
re-install, but changing distros makes that task just as hard as restoring
the configuration manually.

I also wouldn't suggest switching from ANY distro to SuSE on a production
box that has any level of time invested in it...Including as limited as a
few days. Its just often a risk of creating a LOT of work.

On the other hand, if you DO have RedHat and you are buying a NEW machine
with a brand new install and never been configured...YES is would suggest
that you buy SuSE, Debian or Slackware, but I wouldn't suggest RedHat7 at
the moment...Perhaps when they get it patched up nicely and back into LBS. I
happen to like RedHat up to version 6.2.


--
Scot Mc Pherson
N27° 19' 56"
W82° 30' 39"



"John Hong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:99tbfd$31n$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> >Whats wrong with paying for SuSE Linux? Geeze, what are you? a cheap
skate?
>
> There is nothing wrong with paying for SuSE.  I'm simply stating
> that if one is already familiar with Red Hat/Mandrake than you might not
> find the investment worth it since it is still just Linux anyways.
>
> >no wonder investers are werry about investing in Linux business with
lusers
> >like you too tight to part with $US50.
>
> You are damn right I have a problem with paying $50 for something
> that I know I can get elsewhere for virtually free.
>
> >Also, there is a lot of proprietry software included with SuSE Linux's
> >Distro, for example, the configuration tool (Yast2 and Yast1) are not
open
> >source, also, there is some other packages that can't be freely
distributed.
> >So, before you open your big gob, survey the situation first.
>
> I have.  Yast is nice.  If you were to kindly actually read my
> whole post you would have found that I said there was nothing wrong with
> SuSE.  They do have a good distribution.  But if you already familar with
> Red Hat/Mandrake, again, I'll say again you may not find spending the
> money on SuSE to be worth it when you could get it the same for almost
> free.
> Perhaps it is you who should survey the situation first, as in my
> post, before opening *your* big gob.
>



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From: "Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Video Cards Final choice Higher end TNT2 or lower end GeForce
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 13:08:44 -0600

GeForce or GeForce2MX are much better performance for the money than any
TNT2 Ultra or lower TNT2 card.

"mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi,
>     I do not want to spend more than about $120 for the card.
> Is a low end GeForce card better than a high end TNT@. What's
> the best performance for the money?
>
>                                                 Thanks
>                                                         Mike
>
> P.S. I am using a PC platform Celeron 300
>



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