Linux-Hardware Digest #657, Volume #14 Fri, 20 Apr 01 16:13:06 EDT
Contents:
Linux System ("Fredrik Larsson")
Compile errors for ltmodem RH7.0 (J Sako)
Re: Logitech wireless wheel mouse (Warren Jones)
Re: Damn, sorry ("Patrick LaRoche")
Re: Microsoft gets hard (Bob Hauck)
Re: Sound Blaster 16 PCI\Ensoniq 5880 (Markku Kolkka)
Re: Microsoft gets hard ("John Pfaff")
Re: A Linux emulator for Linux, does this exist? (Mario Klebsch)
Re: Logitech wireless wheel mouse (Joseph Dalton)
Re: mandrake and the iomega zip100 (parallel) (Tim)
2 1600sw displays with linux (xfree86)? (Bryan)
Redhat and Printing (Alex Leung)
Adding Hardrives (Ian Kingsford-Smith)
ms trackball explorer and xfree86 4.0.3 ("Pat Crean")
RH7 & ide-tape ("Ian S. Salisbury")
Re: Logitech wireless wheel mouse (Warren Jones)
Will a Conner CTD400E-S 4mm Dat work with RH 5.2 ? ("Brian Richardson")
representative SCSI drivers? (Michael W. Godfrey)
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From: "Fredrik Larsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux System
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:16:21 +0200
Hi,
I am looking for a really small system. I want a network adapter, COM-port,
a couple of MB in some kind of flash ram. No harddrive. It should be pretty
small and fairly cheap. The sizing should be like a keyboard split in half
and stacked on top of eachother. I need a Linux OS and a small display of
some sort (optional). Anyone seen such solution? Plz advice.
Regards, Fredrik.
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Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:33:42 -0500
From: J Sako <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Compile errors for ltmodem RH7.0
I'm trying add in support for ltmodem.o for my T20, but am running into
compile errors during the build_module step. Below is the output from
the command. I noticed that while I'm running a 2.2.16-22 kernel, the
kernel-headers as shipped with RH7.0 are at 2.4...huh? Could that be
the problem? Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
JS
/downloads/tmp/ltmodem-5.78e #./build_module
gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2
-fomit-f
rame-pointer -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -fno-strength-reduce -m486
-malign-loops
=2 -malign-jumps=2 -malign-functions=2 -DCPU=586 -DMODULE
-DLT_VERSION=5.78e -c
-o serial.a serial.c
In file included from serial.c:131:
/usr/include/linux/modversions.h:1:2: #error Modules should never use
kernel-hea
ders system headers,
/usr/include/linux/modversions.h:2:2: #error but headers from an
appropriate ker
nel-source
In file included from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/vmalloc.h:8,
from /usr/src/linux/include/asm/io.h:103,
from serial.c:172:
/usr/src/linux/include/asm/pgtable.h: In function `get_pgd_slow':
/usr/src/linux/include/asm/pgtable.h:409: `PAGE_OFFSET_RAW' undeclared
(first us
e in this function)
/usr/src/linux/include/asm/pgtable.h:409: (Each undeclared identifier is
reporte
d only once
/usr/src/linux/include/asm/pgtable.h:409: for each function it appears
in.)
/usr/src/linux/include/asm/pgtable.h: In function `pte_alloc_kernel':
/usr/src/linux/include/asm/pgtable.h:498: `PAGE_OFFSET_RAW' undeclared
(first us
e in this function)
/usr/src/linux/include/asm/pgtable.h:506: warning: control reaches end
of non-vo
id function
/usr/src/linux/include/asm/pgtable.h: In function `pte_alloc':
/usr/src/linux/include/asm/pgtable.h:516: `PAGE_OFFSET_RAW' undeclared
(first us
e in this function)
In file included from serial.c:172:
/usr/src/linux/include/asm/io.h: In function `virt_to_phys':
/usr/src/linux/include/asm/io.h:116: `PAGE_OFFSET_RAW' undeclared (first
use in
this function)
/usr/src/linux/include/asm/io.h:118: warning: control reaches end of
non-void fu
nction
/usr/src/linux/include/asm/io.h: In function `phys_to_virt':
/usr/src/linux/include/asm/io.h:125: `PAGE_OFFSET_RAW' undeclared (first
use in
this function)
/usr/src/linux/include/asm/io.h:127: warning: control reaches end of
non-void fu
nction
/usr/src/linux/include/asm/io.h: In function `check_signature':
/usr/src/linux/include/asm/io.h:184: `PAGE_OFFSET_RAW' undeclared (first
use in
this function)
{standard input}: Assembler messages:
{standard input}:9: Warning: Ignoring changed section attributes for
.modinfo
make: *** [serial.a] Error 1
ln: ./ltmodem.o: File exists
ln: ./ltinst: File exists
ln: ./ltuninst: File exists
run ltinst to install the ltmodem driver
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Warren Jones)
Subject: Re: Logitech wireless wheel mouse
Date: 20 Apr 2001 08:35:21 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Warren Jones)
Joseph Dalton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I have a wireless Logitech mouse, but the scroll wheel is in the middle.
> The protocol I use is IMPS/2. Works fine.
I've tried IMPS/2, and the mouse cursor skitters uncontrollably
along the bottom of the display; clearly not the right protocol
for my mouse. I've also tried a lot of other obvious permutations
on the setup described in my original post. The mouse does work
fine, except the wheel doesn't do anything.
I probably didn't describe the wireless mouse clearly enough.
It has two buttons on top, a scroll wheel in the middle (like
yours) that also acts like a middle button, and a side button
that falls under your right thumb. The box says "Cordless
Mouseman Wheel", and on the bottom of the mouse it says:
M/N: M-RK53
P/N: 851088-0000
How does that compare to your mouse?
Thanks much for providing another data point.
====================================================================
Warren Jones | To keep every cog and wheel is the first
Fluke Corporation | precaution of intelligent tinkering.
Everett, Washington, USA | -- Aldo Leopold
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From: "Patrick LaRoche" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
ahn.tech.linux,alt.os.linux,aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.powerpc,comp.os.linux.security,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Damn, sorry
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:47:26 GMT
Arg, this got stuck in my outbox. I am so sorry guys.
Pat
"Patrick LaRoche" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:b0YD6.302$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Did you check your hosts.allow and hosts.deny files? If the hotsts.deny
> file has
> ALL: ALL in it, no one can connect to your computer.
>
> Don't know if that is your problem though, just an idea.
>
> Patrick
> (PS, do you have a dynamicly assigned address for your router? If so, how
> did you open up port 5500? I only know how to with a static IP and I'm
> looking for help)
>
>
> "dubcaller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:SupD6.2096$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > HI ALL,
> >
> > I have a hotline server running behind my IPCHAINS, RED HAT 7.0, router.
> It
> > uses port 5500. I've opened the port (in and out) in my rc.firewall and
> > fowarded the port to my correct internal address. For some reason
hotline
> > clients can't connect. Has anyone been successfull running a Hotline
> server
> > behind a simliar setup. Are there modules that I need to install?
> >
> >
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Crossposted-To:
comp.arch,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft gets hard
Reply-To: hauck[at]codem{dot}com
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 16:17:47 GMT
On Fri, 20 Apr 2001 22:54:37 +1200, Matthew Gardiner
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Steve Balmer didn't join Microsoft until much later, until then he
> worked for the likes of Unilever.
Ballmer has been with MS at least since the beginning of the DOS era.
No, he wasn't around when Gates and Allen were selling BASIC for the
Altair, but he's not exactly a recent acquisition.
> Had Microsoft acknowledged that these OS's do have some great features,
> and then incorporated into the OS, whilst acknowledging the original
> authors, maybe then you will find that Microsoft software will increase
> in quality.
I agree that the way MS pretends to be innovative, while in fact they
are merely re-implementing other people's ideas, is one of the most
annoying characteristics of the company.
--
-| Bob Hauck
-| Codem Systems, Inc.
-| http://www.codem.com/
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From: Markku Kolkka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sound Blaster 16 PCI\Ensoniq 5880
Date: 20 Apr 2001 19:39:29 +0300
Static <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I think sndconfig must be getting a little screwed up somewhere, last time
> I checked, the Ensoniq 5880 had nothing in common with the SB16
It's SB16PCI, not SB16. They have absolutely nothing in common except the
first characters of their names. SB16PCI is based on the Ensonic AudioPCI,
and apparently different versions of the Ensonic chip are used without
changing the card name. My SB16PCI has a ES1373 chip, the model number
printed on the board is CT4740.
--
Markku Kolkka
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "John Pfaff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.arch,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft gets hard
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:06:52 -0400
Actually the number of Linux users is closer to 17 million (source
http://counter.li.org/estimates.html ). If you take about 1/3 of that (I
feel a conservative estimate in that most Linux users are not your
run-of-the-mill computer user), you get close to 6 million.
--
John Pfaff - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Registered with the Linux Counter.
http://counter.li.org
ID # 39256
"JS PL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> "Matthew Gardiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > JS PL wrote:
> > >
> > > "unicat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > >
> > > > Of course there's a name for companies that trusted Microsoft as a
> > > busniess
> > > > partner...extinct!
> > >
> > > Which one is extinct? There's about 32,000 Certified Business Partners
> > > Organizations. And about 6 million developers using Microsoft
> Development
> > > tools.
> > > http://www.microsoft.com/business/partners/
> > > Which one became extinct? Ass.
> > >
> > > You really shouldn't Drink & Write.
> > IS that 6 million MSDN subscribers? I would say there is more Linux
> > developers out there, that don't need the fancy $5000 mecharno kit to
> > prove to their mates that they can program. Oh, and btw, I have a SUN
> > developer connection subscription, and compared to the Microsoft shit,
> > it is worth every dollar, esp the support SUN provides, real engineers
> > helping programmers. Not the Microsoft help when you just have some
> > half witt reading out a help file to you.
>
>
> More than 6 million Linux developers! I think not. I submit that there are
> not even 6 million Linux USERS!!
> Linux.org claims that there are 12 million. After reading the incredible
> straw grasping that is used to come up with those numbers, such as
counting
> documents found for Linux at AltaVista! Or,counting unique "From" posts in
a
> Linux newsgroup and extrapolating it out by a "wholly guessed at"
> multiplier! I would guess that it's about one tenth of what is claimed or
> 1.2 million at most.
>
>
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mario Klebsch)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: A Linux emulator for Linux, does this exist?
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 19:18:32 +0200
"Peet Grobler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
><SNIP>
>>happen. According to folklore, you can pretty much replace an
>>entire 390 one piece at a time without ever rebooting -- I
>>imagine that's a bit exagerated.
>Yes, I believe you can. If everything in the system is hot-swappable, why
>not?
What about hot-swappable programs?
73, Mario
--
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PGP-Key available at http://www.klebsch.de/public.key
Fingerprint DSS: EE7C DBCC D9C8 5DC1 D4DB 1483 30CE 9FB2 A047 9CE0
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From: Joseph Dalton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Logitech wireless wheel mouse
Date: 20 Apr 2001 13:31:52 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Warren Jones) writes:
<snip>
I don't have any side buttons, just the two and the middle wheel.
I'm not at home so I can't say what the model number is.
I went and looked at the docs on XFree86.org and here is a
configuration that you can try:
<quote>
7. Configuration Examples
This section shows some example InputDevice section for popular mice.
All the examples assume that the mouse is connected to the PS/2 mouse
port, and the OS supports the PS/2 mouse initialization. It is also
assumed that /dev/mouse is a link to the PS/2 mouse port.
Logitech MouseMan+ has 4 buttons and a wheel. The following example
makes the wheel movement available as the button 5 and 6.
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "MouseMan+"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Device" "/dev/mouse"
Option "Protocol" "MouseManPlusPS/2"
Option "Buttons" "6"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "5 6"
EndSection
</quote>
Comparing to what you had:
> Section "InputDevice"
> Driver "mouse"
> Identifier "Mouse[1]"
> Option "Device" "/dev/mouse"
> Option "Protocol" "MouseManPlusPS/2"
> Option "Buttons" "5"
^^^
> Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
^^^^^
> EndSection
Your mouse has 2 buttons, 1 side button, a middle "click" button, and
the two wheel motions = 6 event producers, or 6 buttons. Give that a
try.
--
Joe Dalton
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From: Tim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: mandrake and the iomega zip100 (parallel)
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:22:07 -0400
Hi Snowman,
Snowman wrote:
>
> Hi,
> any help from those more experienced than I would be appreciated. I
> recently moved to mandrake 7.2 from an old copy of redhat. For the most
> part, the transition has been painless, with the exception of my zip drive.
OK, here is how I set up my Zip100 parallel port drive. I added the
following lines to /etc/rc.d/rc.local:
# Zip Drive Access
insmod parport
insmod ppa
insmod lp
Then I added this line to /etc/fstab:
/dev/sda /mnt/zip ext2 user,noexec,nodev,nosuid,rw,noauto 0 0
Note that the filetype is ext2--I prefer to reformat my Zip disks.
Finally, add the mount-point "/mnt/zip" or whatever you prefer.
Good Luck!
Tim
--
Timothy J. Schutte
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.wwnet.net/~kc8hr
"I yam what I yam and that's all what I yam!" --Popeye the Sailor-Man
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From: Bryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.sgi.graphics,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: 2 1600sw displays with linux (xfree86)?
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 18:33:25 -0000
I would like to run 2 SGI 1600sw flatpanels on my linux box. ideally in
'xinerama' mode (xfree86 4.0.3).
in the past, I've run a pair of matrox agp/pci cards and run dualhead just
fine in svga/analog mode with regular CRT monitors.
I'm new to the digital outputs on the special video cards and I'm not
sure there's a lot of info about running two SGI 1600sw panels on one linux
box.
can it be done? are there known configs that work or don't work? I'm
assuming that I'd have to order a 1600sw with a pci card and the other 1600sw
with an agp card. I'd prefer not to have the expense of the 'multilink'
box.
thanks,
--
My email addr can be found on my web page: http://www.Grateful.Net/
or try: sprintf(my_email, "%s@%s.%s", "brian", "grateful", "net");
Please DON'T send me email when you're posting a follow-up.
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From: Alex Leung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Redhat and Printing
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:57:33 -0700
Hello,
Does anyone know how to setup a printer such that when printing, it uses
a "fast" or "economical" mode, like in windows? I have an HP deskjet
600C and all I've done so far is added the printer via "printer tool"
and when it prints, it uses a ton of ink.
Any help would be appreciated,
Alex
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From: Ian Kingsford-Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Adding Hardrives
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 21:38:03 +0100
I have RH linux running on one of my machines, I have added another
harddrive. Can I just move the partitions across or do I need to do a
total reinstall.
Any help in this matter will be appreciated.
Cheer
Ian
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From: "Pat Crean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ms trackball explorer and xfree86 4.0.3
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:52:56 -0400
Anybody got the magic recipe to make these two play nice?
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Reply-To: "Ian S. Salisbury" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Ian S. Salisbury" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat
Subject: RH7 & ide-tape
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:28:30 -0500
Has anyone gotten ide-tape to work at all in RH7? How 'bout RH7.1?
I'm using 2.2.19-7.01 and tried everything I can think of. ide-tape insmods
and modprobes fine but mt always results with an input/output error.
Doesn't matter if I use /dev/tape or dev/ht0. I've even compiled it into
the kernel with the same results, and tried two different tape drives.
A google search shows me that I am not alone but I couldn't find any
solutions.
I'll post more details if someone has gotten it to work.
Thanks!
-Ian-
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Warren Jones)
Subject: Re: Logitech wireless wheel mouse
Date: 20 Apr 2001 12:28:13 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Warren Jones)
Joseph Dalton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I went and looked at the docs on XFree86.org and here is a
> configuration that you can try:
>
> <quote>
> 7. Configuration Examples
>
> This section shows some example InputDevice section for popular mice.
> All the examples assume that the mouse is connected to the PS/2 mouse
> port, and the OS supports the PS/2 mouse initialization. It is also
> assumed that /dev/mouse is a link to the PS/2 mouse port.
>
> Logitech MouseMan+ has 4 buttons and a wheel. The following example
> makes the wheel movement available as the button 5 and 6.
>
> Section "InputDevice"
> Identifier "MouseMan+"
> Driver "mouse"
> Option "Device" "/dev/mouse"
> Option "Protocol" "MouseManPlusPS/2"
> Option "Buttons" "6"
> Option "ZAxisMapping" "5 6"
> EndSection
> </quote>
I think this is one of the permutations I tried. At any rate,
I just tried it again, and still no luck. The mouse buttons
work fine, but the scroll wheel does nothing (imwheel is running).
Thanks again for your suggestions.
====================================================================
Warren Jones | To keep every cog and wheel is the first
Fluke Corporation | precaution of intelligent tinkering.
Everett, Washington, USA | -- Aldo Leopold
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From: "Brian Richardson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Will a Conner CTD400E-S 4mm Dat work with RH 5.2 ?
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:51:09 -0400
I've found an old Conner 4mm DAT unit (SCSI), and I was thinking of
putting it in one of my machines that currently has no tape unit. Does
anyone know off-hand if this drive will work with the std RH 5.2
installation (w/o requiring any additional driver).
I believe I have a Buslogic adapter card in the RH 5.2 box (have to
double-check).
Thanks in advance.
Brian
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael W. Godfrey)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: representative SCSI drivers?
Date: 20 Apr 2001 19:28:28 GMT
Greetings,
I'm an academic researcher and a Linux user since kernel 0.99pl15.
The Linux source codebase (including drivers) makes an excellent guinea pig
for exploring ideas of how software evolves (Linux is big, in wide use, and
open source so I can look at its internals and publish the results). We've
decided to perform a case study on the evolution of the Linux SCSI drivers
(lotsa drivers largely performing the same tasks).
What I would very much appreciate is any feedback that a knowledgable Linux
"historian" might have on the past, present, and future of SCSI drivers for
Linux (beyond what I can read in the HOWTOs). For example, I'd like to
find out:
-- precisely which of the gazillion drivers (and cards) are in widest
use now and over time (the top ten or so, say),
-- which drivers are basically legacyware,
-- how much code cloning (and hacking) of drivers has occurred (we know
some of this already from having browsed the source, eg several
drivers were cloned from cyberstorm.[ch], which in turn was cloned
from esp.[ch]),
-- which drivers are known to be particularly (un)reliable,
etc.
If anyone out there in Linuxland has decent knowledge of these kinds of
matters and wouldn't mind dropping me an informative missive (on this or
any other topic that seems appropriate), I'd very much appreciate hearing
from you. (And I'll be happy to acknowledge your help in any resulting
publication.)
Thanks.
--
Michael Godfrey PhD, Assistant Professor
Univ of Waterloo, Dept of Computer Science
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
URL: http://plg.uwaterloo.ca/~migod
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