Linux-Hardware Digest #681, Volume #14 Tue, 24 Apr 01 19:13:17 EDT
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Re: zip 100 setup in KDE, RH6.2 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Flat panel (TFT/LCD) with Linux anyone? (38.161.118.161 [[EMAIL PROTECTED]])
Flat panel (TFT/LCD) with Linux anyone? (38.161.118.161 [[EMAIL PROTECTED]])
Flat panel (TFT/LCD) with Linux anyone? (38.161.118.161 [[EMAIL PROTECTED]])
Flat panel (TFT/LCD) with Linux anyone? (38.161.118.161 [[EMAIL PROTECTED]])
Terratec DMX XFire ("Grand Titus")
Re: kppp problems... (Stuart Williams)
Partitions ("Anthony Smith")
AMD and CPU idle state (lino)
AMD and CPU idle state (lino)
Re: SMP, RH7.1 and Intel -- Can't they all just get along? (Hal Burgiss)
Re: LINUX on Compaq Deskpro XL (Trevor Hemsley)
Re: Where can I buy bridgeboards? (Clarence Wilkerson)
Re: Could Linux be used in this factory environment ? ("Erik Funkenbusch")
Re: Could Linux be used in this factory environment ? (SammyTheSnake)
Re: AMD and CPU idle state ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: SMP, RH7.1 and Intel -- Can't they all just get along? (Trevor Hemsley)
Re: AMD and CPU idle state (lino)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: zip 100 setup in KDE, RH6.2
Date: 24 Apr 2001 13:40:13 -0700
Jinsong Liang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
>
> It works now. Thank you so much, Andi.
>
> However, I have another question. In fstab, the line for floppy is
>
> /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto noauto,owner 0 0
>
> As common user, I can not mount floppy in console. But I can do it on kde
> desktop using right click. Why?
>
> Regards,
>
> Leo
I thought that Mandrake and RedHat set things up so that the user who
logs in on the console (or into X via xdm or kdm on the console) gets
temporary ownership of many device files like /dev/fd0. If so, that
would explain why the kde desktop can access it. But it wouldn't
explain why you have trouble accessing it from the console.
--
Eric Backus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
http://labejb.lks.agilent.com/
(425) 335-2495
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Subject: Flat panel (TFT/LCD) with Linux anyone?
From: 38.161.118.161 [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 21:10:33 GMT
Hi, Does anyone have any success with using a flat panel monitor with Linux? If so, I
would appreciate if you could post the details.
Iam currently running Linux Mandrake 7.2, but would be moving to 8.0 soon. I have a
Matrox Millennium G400 (Dual head) AGP card. Iam thinking of buying a flat panel
monitor, but want to make sure I can use it under Linux.
Thanks, nram
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Subject: Flat panel (TFT/LCD) with Linux anyone?
From: 38.161.118.161 [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 21:10:33 GMT
Hi, Does anyone have any success with using a flat panel monitor with Linux? If so, I
would appreciate if you could post the details.
Iam currently running Linux Mandrake 7.2, but would be moving to 8.0 soon. I have a
Matrox Millennium G400 (Dual head) AGP card. Iam thinking of buying a flat panel
monitor, but want to make sure I can use it under Linux.
Thanks, nram
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Subject: Flat panel (TFT/LCD) with Linux anyone?
From: 38.161.118.161 [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 21:10:33 GMT
Hi, Does anyone have any success with using a flat panel monitor with Linux? If so, I
would appreciate if you could post the details.
Iam currently running Linux Mandrake 7.2, but would be moving to 8.0 soon. I have a
Matrox Millennium G400 (Dual head) AGP card. Iam thinking of buying a flat panel
monitor, but want to make sure I can use it under Linux.
Thanks, nram
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Subject: Flat panel (TFT/LCD) with Linux anyone?
From: 38.161.118.161 [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 21:10:33 GMT
Hi, Does anyone have any success with using a flat panel monitor with Linux? If so, I
would appreciate if you could post the details.
Iam currently running Linux Mandrake 7.2, but would be moving to 8.0 soon. I have a
Matrox Millennium G400 (Dual head) AGP card. Iam thinking of buying a flat panel
monitor, but want to make sure I can use it under Linux.
Thanks, nram
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From: "Grand Titus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Terratec DMX XFire
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 21:12:39 GMT
Do you know if this sound card woks under Linux? (Maybe I 'll buy it)
Thanks for your answers.
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From: Stuart Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: kppp problems...
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 16:18:41 -0400
"Karim R. Sobhi" wrote:
> i'm trying to connect my Linux Mandrake 7.1 to the internet through my
> modem. the modem is compatible and when i query it it works fine. when i run
> kppp, on the other hand, i get this on the log file:
>
> Apr 24 21:52:38 Edgar pppd[927]: pppd 2.3.11 started by root, uid 0
> Apr 24 21:52:38 Edgar pppd[927]: Using interface ppp0
> Apr 24 21:52:38 Edgar pppd[927]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS1
> Apr 24 21:52:46 Edgar pppd[927]: Peer is not authorized to use remote
> address 217.52.7.110
> Apr 24 21:52:46 Edgar pppd[927]: Connection terminated.
> Apr 24 21:52:46 Edgar pppd[927]: Connect time 0.2 minutes.
> Apr 24 21:52:46 Edgar pppd[927]: Sent 380 bytes, received 407 bytes.
> Apr 24 21:52:46 Edgar pppd[927]: Exit.
>
> i'm sure the username and password are correct so i don't know where the
> problem is. any ideas?
>
> karim
ok i dont know if this will work but you can try it. use modemtool to make
your modem /dev/modem then connect using /dev/modem I did this last
time I used a modem(been a long time). hit alt-F2 in kde and type modemtool
.
Stuart
PS i think mandrake has modemtool i know redhat does GOOD LUCK!!
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From: "Anthony Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Partitions
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 22:27:12 +0000
I'v got a few partitions of various sizes, but my root partition 885MB
stays the same size
while my usr partition has only 225MB left.
Can I change the size of my root partition, or both, without
re-installing?
Cheers!!!
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From: lino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: AMD and CPU idle state
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 21:47:57 GMT
Hi!
System: Abit KT7A-RAID, Athlon TB 900, 256 MB ram, Linux 2.2.17 and
2.4.2, Mandrake 7.2.
Problem: I'm testing the lm-sensors package under Mandrake 7.2, with
both the kernels (recompiled from scratch) and I've noticed that the
temperatures agree with both the Bios and the Win98 Utility.
The problem is the following: when the computer isn't working, under
Win98 the CPU temp. goes slowly to 32C, while when I play a nice game it
grows to 45C.
Under Linux, whatever I do (with both the kernels and with a load of
zero% (no running program)), the CPU temp goes to 45C and stops there!
I've tried to insert the apm support with the idle calls abilied in the
kernel, but the CPU temp is always that of a system working at 100%.
With kernel 2.4.2 the process "kapm-idled" (pid=3) uses 60% CPU.
Is this a know bug? Is this a bug at all? Any solution to put the CPU
in a real idle state?
Thanks!
Lino
P.S.: sample output of sensors:
via686a-isa-6000
Adapter: ISA adapter
Algorithm: ISA algorithm
CPU core: +1.76 V (min = +1.48 V, max = +1.99 V)
I/O: +3.38 V (min = +3.03 V, max = +3.36 V) ALARM
+5V: +4.84 V (min = +4.60 V, max = +5.07 V)
+12V: +11.86 V (min = +11.03 V, max = +12.16 V)
CPU Fan: 5113 RPM (min = 3000 RPM, div = 2)
P/S Fan: 2678 RPM (min = 3000 RPM, div = 2) ALARM
SYS Temp: +28.9�C (limit = +40�C, hysteresis = +45�C)
CPU Temp: +44.9�C (limit = +55�C, hysteresis = +60�C)
SBr Temp: +24.6�C (limit = +60�C, hysteresis = +65�C)
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From: lino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: AMD and CPU idle state
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 21:51:24 GMT
Hi!
System: Abit KT7A-RAID, Athlon TB 900, 256 MB ram, Linux 2.2.17 and
2.4.2, Mandrake 7.2.
Problem: I'm testing the lm-sensors package under Mandrake 7.2, with
both the kernels (recompiled from scratch) and I've noticed that the
temperatures agree with both the Bios and the Win98 Utility.
The problem is the following: when the computer isn't working, under
Win98 the CPU temp. goes slowly to 32C, while when I play a nice game it
grows to 45C.
Under Linux, whatever I do (with both the kernels and with a load of
zero% (no running program)), the CPU temp goes to 45C and stops there!
I've tried to insert the apm support with the idle calls abilied in the
kernel, but the CPU temp is always that of a system working at 100%.
With kernel 2.4.2 the process "kapm-idled" (pid=3) uses 60% CPU.
Is this a know bug? Is this a bug at all? Any solution to put the CPU
in a real idle state?
Thanks!
Lino
P.S.: sample output of sensors:
via686a-isa-6000
Adapter: ISA adapter
Algorithm: ISA algorithm
CPU core: +1.76 V (min = +1.48 V, max = +1.99 V)
I/O: +3.38 V (min = +3.03 V, max = +3.36 V) ALARM
+5V: +4.84 V (min = +4.60 V, max = +5.07 V)
+12V: +11.86 V (min = +11.03 V, max = +12.16 V)
CPU Fan: 5113 RPM (min = 3000 RPM, div = 2)
P/S Fan: 2678 RPM (min = 3000 RPM, div = 2) ALARM
SYS Temp: +28.9�C (limit = +40�C, hysteresis = +45�C)
CPU Temp: +44.9�C (limit = +55�C, hysteresis = +60�C)
SBr Temp: +24.6�C (limit = +60�C, hysteresis = +65�C)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Subject: Re: SMP, RH7.1 and Intel -- Can't they all just get along?
Reply-To: Hal Burgiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 24 Apr 2001 17:57:08 -0400
On Tue, 24 Apr 2001 15:20:57 -0400, Jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>If this is not the correct newsgroup, please forgive:
>
>I'm trying to setup a RH 7.1 box with two pentium III 1 Gig processors and
>1.5 Gig Ram. I've installed two partitions, one that works and one that
>doesn't. The one that works is running RH 7.1 however using the BOOT
>kernel, while the partition that doesn't work is attempting to a compiled
>kernel with:
What do you mean boot kernel? The one you install with? This is the one
installed by the installer for me:
[hal@feenix hal]$ uname -a
Linux feenix 2.4.2-2smp #1 SMP Sun Apr 8 20:21:34 EDT 2001 i686 unknown
It's on the CD. Have you tried that? If that does not work, then there
is a problem ;) If it does work, your hand make config is fubar.
--
Hal B
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trevor Hemsley)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,de.comp.os.unix.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: LINUX on Compaq Deskpro XL
Date: 24 Apr 2001 22:03:06 GMT
On Tue, 24 Apr 2001 13:43:07, Ioan Alexandre Romoscanu
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Did anyone install Linux (SUSE 6.x for instance) on a Compaq Deskpro XL?
> This PC has a QVision graphic card, and it is officially not supported.
> I wonder if it still works.
At least some of the QVision cards were rebadged Matrox Millennium
cards. What does lspci report as the video chipset?
--
Trevor Hemsley, Brighton, UK.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Clarence Wilkerson)
Crossposted-To: comp.periphs.scsi,comp.os.cpm,comp.sys.tandy
Subject: Re: Where can I buy bridgeboards?
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 22:10:41 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To get back to the original request, such bridgeboards
were common on old Sun 3 or earlier equipment, and also
similar boards for tape drives and ???? ( non-scsi- non FM)
drives ( lost the name ). So you might look in old Sun
boneyards.
--
Clarence Wilkerson \ HomePage: http://www.math.purdue.edu/~wilker
Prof. of Math. \ Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dept. of Mathematics \ Messages: (765) 494-1903, FAX 494-0548
Purdue University, \
W. Lafayette, IN 47907-1395 \
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From: "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Could Linux be used in this factory environment ?
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 17:29:29 -0500
You need to learn to quote correctly. The way you've quoted this looks like
Hartmann wrote it all, when he didn't. I wrote the second part, he wrote
the first.
"Jonadab the Unsightly One" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hartmann Schaffer) wrote:
>
> > all the reasons you give describe a thin client arrangement,
>
> A one-computer-many-terminals arrangment fits even better.
> The terminals can be VT100s or whatever. Win3.1 boxes?
> Shoot, you could use 8088s (e.g., the original IBM PC
> from 1980), but that would be overkill.
>
> > You're ignoring the one about management. Consider that
> > many factories operate 24/7, which means they never shut
> > down the terminals and the "application" runs constantly.
> > When you upgrade the application, the terminals are still
> > running it. You have to get all the clients to shutdown
> > and load the new version.
>
> That's silly. All you need is to queue the upgrade to
> any given page until nobody's looking at it.
And you magically know when nobody is looking at it, how? You have to go
around to each terminal and find out.
> Or if you
> need to upgrade the software they're using to view the
> pages, install the new version, set it up so that when
> a terminal is reset it uses the new version, and leave
> the old version in place for a few weeks until every
> terminal has been reset.
And what if the terminal is never reset? What if you need the change to
take effect immediately (suppose you add some information that must be
included in all work orders)? What if the change requires modifying the
tables of the database so that the old application is no longer compatible,
or the old application could corrupt the new data?
My point is simply that HTML based programs do have advantages.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (SammyTheSnake)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Could Linux be used in this factory environment ?
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 22:49:10 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jonadab the Unsightly One wrote:
snip
>Above all, you don't want the computer stopping for
>no reason, so run it on Unix or VMS, and you won't
>go down unless there's a hardware problem or some
>idiot runs a forkbomb.
not even then if you use a recent version of linux[1]. If each user has
their own login ID then other users won't even notice :)
[1] from memory ~2.2.18+ or maybe it was one of the 2.2.17preXen
Cheers & God bless
SammyTheSnake
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Linux, Hardware & Juggling specialist :-) | job, if you can help, e-mail me :)
Wheels: bike, 'ickle bike, and unicycle. | /o \/
Boxen: K6-266@300, dual Celery500 & Nx486 | \__/\
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: AMD and CPU idle state
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 00:24:49 +0200
lino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> System: Abit KT7A-RAID, Athlon TB 900, 256 MB ram, Linux 2.2.17 and
> 2.4.2, Mandrake 7.2.
> Problem: I'm testing the lm-sensors package under Mandrake 7.2, with
> both the kernels (recompiled from scratch) and I've noticed that the
> temperatures agree with both the Bios and the Win98 Utility.
> The problem is the following: when the computer isn't working, under
> Win98 the CPU temp. goes slowly to 32C, while when I play a nice game it
> grows to 45C.
> Under Linux, whatever I do (with both the kernels and with a load of
> zero% (no running program)), the CPU temp goes to 45C and stops there!
> I've tried to insert the apm support with the idle calls abilied in the
> kernel, but the CPU temp is always that of a system working at 100%.
> With kernel 2.4.2 the process "kapm-idled" (pid=3) uses 60% CPU.
+
I aalso don't understand the apm code - and don't like it. It looks to
me as though it might run in a busy loop when the bios returns a
success code to every idle call, but doesn't really idle.
> Is this a know bug? Is this a bug at all? Any solution to put the CPU
> in a real idle state?
Get a working bios and talk to the apm code author about it.
BTW, how did you adjust the lm-sensors algoritm to your cpu? That
45C you report might perfectly well be 32C.
> P.S.: sample output of sensors:
> via686a-isa-6000
> Adapter: ISA adapter
> Algorithm: ISA algorithm
> CPU core: +1.76 V (min = +1.48 V, max = +1.99 V)
> I/O: +3.38 V (min = +3.03 V, max = +3.36 V) ALARM
> +5V: +4.84 V (min = +4.60 V, max = +5.07 V)
> +12V: +11.86 V (min = +11.03 V, max = +12.16 V)
> CPU Fan: 5113 RPM (min = 3000 RPM, div = 2)
> P/S Fan: 2678 RPM (min = 3000 RPM, div = 2) ALARM
> SYS Temp: +28.9C (limit = +40C, hysteresis = +45C)
> CPU Temp: +44.9C (limit = +55C, hysteresis = +60C)
> SBr Temp: +24.6C (limit = +60C, hysteresis = +65C)
Well, frankly, without calibration, how can you tell? Put a
thermomenter inside and see what it says.
Peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trevor Hemsley)
Subject: Re: SMP, RH7.1 and Intel -- Can't they all just get along?
Date: 24 Apr 2001 22:47:10 GMT
On Tue, 24 Apr 2001 19:20:57, Jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If this is not the correct newsgroup, please forgive:
>
> I'm trying to setup a RH 7.1 box with two pentium III 1 Gig processors and
> 1.5 Gig Ram. I've installed two partitions, one that works and one that
> doesn't. The one that works is running RH 7.1 however using the BOOT
> kernel, while the partition that doesn't work is attempting to a compiled
> kernel with:
> i. SMP flag set;
> ii. RTC (Real Time Clock) flag set;
> iii. MTRR (Memory Type Range Register) flag set; and
> iv. No Advance Power Management flag set
Do you have CONFIG_NOHIGHMEM set to 4GB? I think that with >1GB RAM
then you need it. It's the High Memory support option under Processor
Type and Features selection in menuconfig.
> As per the HOWTO.
>
> And yet I get the following boot sequences messages prior to the "crash"
>
> CPU1: Intel Pentium III (Coppermine) stepping 06
> CPU1 has booted.
> Total of 2 processors activated (4010.80 BogoMIPS).
> Before bogocount - setting activated=1.
> Boot done.
> ENABLING IO_APIC IRQs
> ....changing IO-APIC physical APIC ID to 2 ... ok.
> Synchronizing Arb IDs
> ...TIMER: vector=49 pin1=2 pin2=0
>
> .... And then nothing.
My system then goes onto
CPU1: Intel Pentium III (Katmai) stepping 03
CPU has booted.
Before bogomips.
Total of 2 processors activated (2388.78 BogoMIPS).
Before bogocount - setting activated=1.
Boot done.
ENABLING IO-APIC IRQs
..changing IO-APIC physical APIC ID to 2 ... ok.
Synchronizing Arb IDs.
init IO_APIC IRQs
IO-APIC (apicid-pin) 2-0, 2-20, 2-21, 2-22, 2-23 not connected.
.TIMER: vector=49 pin1=2 pin2=0
number of MP IRQ sources: 22.
number of IO-APIC #2 registers: 24.
testing the IO APIC.......................
Is this an i840 motherboard?
--
Trevor Hemsley, Brighton, UK.
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From: lino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: AMD and CPU idle state
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 22:56:16 GMT
> Well, frankly, without calibration, how can you tell? Put a
> thermomenter inside and see what it says.
As I wrote before, I've compared the temps from lm-sensors, BIOS and Win
until, and they agree within the differences due to the reboot times.
I've even measured them with an expernal thermometer, and all works
fine.
Lino
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