Linux-Hardware Digest #686, Volume #14 Wed, 25 Apr 01 14:13:08 EDT
Contents:
Re: can't boot off iso(no dir struct) (Dances With Crows)
Re: ATI Xpert 2000 Pro Problem ("Francisco Galvan")
Re: 2.4.3, ATA100 & Hedrick's patches (Kenneth R�rvik)
Re: oldest terminal you have used ("Paul Ryan")
Re: Kernel 2.4.3 questions... (Roland Sch�fer)
Re: Kernel 2.4.3 questions... (Roland Sch�fer)
Re: SMP, RH7.1 and Intel -- Can't they all just get along? ("Snowman")
Re: How to ifconfig ADM8511 usb adapter under Linux 7.1 ? (A.C. 'Static')
Re: Promise RAID with RedHat 7.1/Mandrake 8.0 (iQXth)
Re: LINUX on Compaq Deskpro XL (Ioan Alexandre Romoscanu)
Re: Switchboxes for keyboard, mice, video? (chrisv)
aggiornamento hardware ("giantolin")
Dual port NICs ("Mike McDade")
Vorrei anche.. ("giantolin")
ATI Card Problem with TV-Out ("Francisco Galvan")
Re: ATA100 drive with ATA33 controller ("Mike McDade")
Re: Partitions (John Thompson)
ABIT BH6-II: any experience? (Dimitri Maziuk)
help with sound!!! ("Mike Buckley")
Re: Best RAID controller for Linux (Hubba Bubba)
TNT2 on Mandrake7.2? ("Andy Walker")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: can't boot off iso(no dir struct)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 25 Apr 2001 12:53:39 GMT
[FOLLOWUPS SET]
On Tue, 24 Apr 2001 21:00:35 -0400, iksrazal staggered into the Black
Sun and said:
>I downloaded a rh iso via ncftp, and burned it to a disk via cdrecord.
>I can mount it. But all I see is the one iso file, and not a directory
>listing. Anyone know how to use md5sum? Any other ideas?
You didn't burn it correctly, or the ISO was corrupted during download.
The syntax for burning an ISO with cdrecord is like so:
cdrecord -v dev=X,Y,Z speed=W file.iso
and it appears to me that you inserted a mkisofs somewhere before the
cdrecord, which is usually what you want, but not here.
To use md5sum, all you have to do is enter "md5sum FILENAME" and the
program will spit out a checksum. Compare that checksum with the
checksum of a known good file, and if they match, it's all good. If
not, something was corrupted. This is explained in the man page, have
you tried "man md5sum"?
Another way of checking an ISO before burning it is to mount it via the
loopback device and try to read files:
mount -t iso9660 file.iso /mnt/somewhere -o loop
HTH,
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com / Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
=============================/ I hit a seg fault....
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From: "Francisco Galvan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ATI Xpert 2000 Pro Problem
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 15:00:22 +0200
All, with Red Hat 6.2 it is not possible. the screen goes black. 8-((.
Is It possible define monitor definition with refresh rate 50 Hz.?, Windows
98 works fine with tv-out.
I beg your pardon my bad english.
Regards ... Paco
"Francisco Galvan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribi� en el mensaje
news:9c3jdu$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> All,
>
> I discover that the problem with my ATI Xpert 2000 Pro is the TV-out
option,
> if when turn on the computer there is connect a RCA input jack to the
card
> the screen goes black when running startx, in other hand, if the RCA input
> jack is not connect when turn on the PC, startx works fine. These two
> options occurs with Suse 7.1 and Mandrake 7.2 Linux versions.
>
> This option I try on Red Hat 6.2 as soon as possible, perhaps occurs the
> same.
>
> The manual say that when the TV-out is connect, the monitor has support
> refresh rate 50Hz and the 600x800 maximum resolution.
>
> I see the XF86Config file and there is not monitors definitions with
> refresh rate 50 Hz.
>
> Regards ... Paco.
>
>
>
>
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Subject: Re: 2.4.3, ATA100 & Hedrick's patches
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenneth R�rvik)
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 13:21:22 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alberto BARSELLA) wrote in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> They aren't. 2.4.x supports ATA100 just fine.
>
>Not for me, unfortunately :(
>Maybe I should those patches out....even if at quick look they don't
>patch anything in the VIA file....
Quite possible :) However I see from the latest changelogs that some VIA
workarounds have been synced on 2.4.4-pre6, might be worth trying 2.4.4
when it is released.
--
Kenneth R�rvik 91841353/22950312
Nordbergv. 60 A [EMAIL PROTECTED]
0875 OSLO home.no.net/stasis
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From: "Paul Ryan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: oldest terminal you have used
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 15:13:13 +0100
Larry Ebbitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Paul Ryan wrote:
> >
> > > I was gonna throw in an ASR33, but I'm whupped at the gate <g>.
> >
> > I would love to get hold of one of them. Anybody in UK got one they
don't
> > want?
> >
>
> Check with any Ham friends you have. They used to be popular with them.
That a good idea, I know somebody that knows Ham radio people.
Paul
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From: Roland Sch�fer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Kernel 2.4.3 questions...
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 16:43:29 +0200
adding:
path[kernel]=/lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel
in /etc/modules.conf helped.
Roland
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From: Roland Sch�fer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Kernel 2.4.3 questions...
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 16:43:29 +0200
adding:
path[kernel]=/lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel
in /etc/modules.conf helped.
Roland
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From: "Snowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SMP, RH7.1 and Intel -- Can't they all just get along?
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 14:50:25 GMT
not the same class of machine by a long shot, but when I installed 7.1 on my
dual cel 400 w/512Mb ram It worked. uname -a reports the following:
Linux 2.4.2-2smp #1 SMP Sun Apr 8 20:21:34 EDT 2001 i686
RH 7.1 seems to come with a fairly decent SMP kernel on the cd, you might
want to give that a go.
Regards,
Snowman
"Jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9c4jmp$f8c$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
>
> If this is not the correct newsgroup, please forgive:
>
> I'm trying to setup a RH 7.1 box with two pentium III 1 Gig processors and
> 1.5 Gig Ram. I've installed two partitions, one that works and one that
> doesn't. The one that works is running RH 7.1 however using the BOOT
> kernel, while the partition that doesn't work is attempting to a compiled
> kernel with:
> i. SMP flag set;
> ii. RTC (Real Time Clock) flag set;
> iii. MTRR (Memory Type Range Register) flag set; and
> iv. No Advance Power Management flag set
>
> As per the HOWTO.
>
> And yet I get the following boot sequences messages prior to the "crash"
>
> CPU1: Intel Pentium III (Coppermine) stepping 06
> CPU1 has booted.
> Total of 2 processors activated (4010.80 BogoMIPS).
> Before bogocount - setting activated=1.
> Boot done.
> ENABLING IO_APIC IRQs
> ...changing IO-APIC physical APIC ID to 2 ... ok.
> Synchronizing Arb IDs
> ..TIMER: vector=49 pin1=2 pin2=0
>
> ... And then nothing.
>
> Any insight into how I can get this partition working would be greatfully
> accepted.
>
> It might be best to reply to my email as well as posting here, so that I
> see your response.
>
> Cheers
>
>
> --
> Jeff Gardiner System Administrator
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> The John. P. Robarts Research Institute
>
> Second Law of Blissful Ignorance --
> -- Inside every small problem is a large problem struggling to get out.
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From: A.C. 'Static' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to ifconfig ADM8511 usb adapter under Linux 7.1 ?
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 15:04:11 GMT
stephen wrote:
> I have some question about the
> ADM8511 usb adapter under Linux Redhat 7.1 with kernel 2.4.2:
>
> After loading the "pegasus.o" , then "ifconfig" the adapter as below:
>
> ==> ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.12 netmask 255.255.0.0 or dhcpcd eth0
>
> there are some message shows:
> "pegasus.c : eth0 :link NOT established (ox7849)- check the cable
>
> I can't connect to my Lan network, but executing "ifconfig" can
> show eth0 and lo .
>
> I also check the cable which is connected to Lan network
> (10/100M switch), and the cable is pretty good.
>
> PS: the leds on the usb adapter :
> power : lit Link/Act : not lit 100M : not lit
If the Link/Act light is not lit, then you're not seeing the switch for
whatever reason. The device is looking for a "heartbeat" from the switch,
when it sees that the Link light should light up. Try a different cable.
>
> Does anyone has similiar problem as mine? And
> could anyone give me some resolution to the problem?
>
> Thanks .
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From: iQXth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Promise RAID with RedHat 7.1/Mandrake 8.0
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 15:10:46 GMT
On Sun, 22 Apr 2001 14:16:48 -0400, "Larry Snyder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Anyone get RedHat 7.2 and/or Mandrake 8.0 to work with the Promise RAID
> conectroller that comes with the A7V133 motherboard in RAID 0?
>
> If so, some pointers please!
>
> Larry
I've had no luck either with Mandrake 8.0 and my Promise RAID
controller. I've not tried Rad Hat 7.2, but I can tell you Red Hat 7.1
is a no go either.
As far as I can tell, we have to wait for Promise to release the Red
Hat driver for it. Only then are we limited to using the Red Hat
distribution of Linux. I'm pretty sure they'd have to make a
Mandrake-8.0-specific driver for it to work there. The source code for
their driver can not be found anywhere on their website.
I'm considering getting a 3ware card because I don't think these
issues exist with their IDE RAID controller cards.
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Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 17:11:49 +0200
From: Ioan Alexandre Romoscanu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,de.comp.os.unix.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: LINUX on Compaq Deskpro XL
Well, the 2 XL's I had have QVision 2000 cards. This is another name for
"Matrox Ultima". The SUSE Package says explicitely that it is not supported...
Andreas Adler wrote:
> Hello,
>
> sorry for my bad english. I hope you understand ist.
> I never saw a Compaq Deskpro XL with a QVision graphic card.
> My ones in our company have a Elsa S3 Adapter. Have you tested with
> VESA-Modes?
>
> Best Regards
>
> Andreas
>
> "Ioan Alexandre Romoscanu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb im
> Newsbeitrag news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > Hello
> >
> > Did anyone install Linux (SUSE 6.x for instance) on a Compaq Deskpro XL?
> > This PC has a QVision graphic card, and it is officially not supported.
> > I wonder if it still works.
> >
> > Thanks for any emails
> >
> > A.I.R.
> > --
> > ___________________________________________
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From: chrisv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips
Subject: Re: Switchboxes for keyboard, mice, video?
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 15:46:16 GMT
Robert Redelmeier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I don't know whether good dithering is used. The app is PowerDVD
>playing DVDs [no hw accel]. I noticed that some very low constrast
>and dark scenes would produce these distracting isochromes at 16bpp,
>but they disappeared entirely at 24bpp.
>
>It could be an artifact of PowerDVD or MPEG2 compression,
>but then why does it disappear at 24bpp?
Well, I can't claim to know much about DVD decoding, but I do know
that often having 32 bits of color information is greatly advantageous
during the "calculation" stage of rendering a scene. The greater
precision allows you to do your math without significant errors being
introduced by round-off and overflow. Of course, this is a different
problem than the actual display of the information once it's in the
frame buffer....
IIRC, John Carmack wrote an opinion piece where he recommended a
transition to 64-bit (!) internal calculations (on the video card),
due to the increasing complexity of texture and lighting calculations
in games, while obviously 32 bits is more than enough for the display.
>> If it were not for a few professional applications where color is
>> vital, the world wouldn't miss "true color" at all, IMO. Of course,
>> with modern hardware, it's like "why not" use true-color.
>
>Well, 16 bit only gives 5 bits per color. At saturation, that
>gives 3% between values which is almost certainly acceptable.
>The problem is at zero [trace], each value increase produces
>a much larger percentage change in output. Infinite in the
>step from zero to one. 100% from 1 to 2. 50% from 2 to 3.
Yes, however, with real-life images, dithering can produce an
extremely realistic image, even with the 5-bits per color. My opinion
of course.
>As I understand it, the eye has analog receptors (rods & cones
>for color) on a pseudo-digital grid. The eye sees contrasts,
>not absolute values. So it might have been better to have
>colors encoded logarithmically, not linearly. The same
>might apply for sound.
Absolutely. Logarithmic (mu-law) encoding of sound is common for this
very reason.
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From: "giantolin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: aggiornamento hardware
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 18:06:51 +0200
Salve a tutti � la prima volta che partecipo, vi prego di perdonare
eventuali errori ed eventualmente di darmi dei consigli.
Vengo al punto, voglio modificare il mio PC sostituendo scheda madre e
processore.
La SM deve supportare il protocollo ATA 100 e processori AMD duron e Athlon
T.
Per gli altri componenti al momento mi devo accontentare di quelli che gi�
possiedo e che, a parte il masterizzatore Yamha CRW2100E Series, � un p�
datato.
Va da s� che essendo schede audio, video, 3D Wodoo2 tutte PCI le potr�
inserire solo se avr� slot sufficienti.
Ho due HD, il primo HD � gi� ATA100 il secondo e vecchiotto, viaggia su di
un PC con processore 166MMX.
Tutto questo lo voglio gestire con Linux Suse 7.1 gi� in mio possesso.
Vorrei sapere se avete qualche consiglio da darmi riguardo la SM, marche e
modelli, e a tutto quello che ritenete utile.
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From: "Mike McDade" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Dual port NICs
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 16:06:20 GMT
noticed the following offerings in a catalog:
Intel Pro/100 Dual Server Adapter 249.99
3Com 3C982-TXM card 239.00
these NICs have two 100baseT ports each...
there're expensive but would get a lot of ports into
an old box that has only the 4 useable PCI slots...
anyone tried one of these boards? what's it like
getting drivers going for something like this
in my 2.4.2-2 Linux boxes?
Mike
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From: "giantolin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Vorrei anche..
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 18:20:19 +0200
Vorrei anche sapere l'indirizzo di qualche newgroup dedicato a Linux in
italiano
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From: "Francisco Galvan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ATI Card Problem with TV-Out
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 17:26:35 +0200
Hi,
I discover that the problem with my ATI Xpert 2000 Pro is the TV-out option,
if when turn on the computer there is connect a RCA input jack to the card
the screen goes black when running startx, in other hand, if the RCA input
jack is not connect when turn on the PC, startx works fine. These two
options occurs with Suse 7.1 and Mandrake 7.2 Linux versions.
The manual say that when the TV-out is connect in Europe, the monitor has
support refresh rate 50Hz and the 600x800 maximum resolution.
I see the XF86Config file and there is not monitors definitions with
refresh rate 50 Hz.
Is It possible define monitor definition with refresh rate 50 Hz.?, Windows
98 works fine with tv-out.
I beg your pardon my bad english.
Regards ... Paco
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From: "Mike McDade" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ATA100 drive with ATA33 controller
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 16:27:57 GMT
okay, so what kind of drive do you prefer? had some problems
with WD's 6.4 IDE's some time ago but no problems at all recently..
Mike
"Mike Castle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <_QLC6.265$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Rinaldi J. Montessi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Mike Castle wrote:
> >> WD - drives of death
> >Religion :-) I've been using WD's for years. They made a bad batch a
> >year or so ago but recalled them all.
>
> Several bad batches over the last several years. Not just a single batch.
> (You've probably never had to replace WD's in over 200+ machines, did
you?)
>
> Btw, I *used* to be a very big fan of WD. Always bought their drives.
But
> no more.
---etc---
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Partitions
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 07:38:39 -0500
Anthony Smith wrote:
> I'v got a few partitions of various sizes, but my root partition 885MB
> stays the same size
> while my usr partition has only 225MB left.
> Can I change the size of my root partition, or both, without
> re-installing?
GNU-parted (available from the usual places) should be able to
handle this.
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dimitri Maziuk)
Subject: ABIT BH6-II: any experience?
Date: 25 Apr 2001 17:03:30 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi all
I'm wondering if there are any known problems/gotchas with Linux on
BH6-II. Specifically, I'm interested in running 8 IDE drives: BH6-II
has 2 ATA/100 ports in addition to usual IDE ports. With, say, 8*75Gb
IBM Deskstars that will give me 600Gb of storage at around $2K US.
This is at least 5 times cheaper than a proper RAID box of similar
capacity. Now the question is whether Linux will support that.
Any comments?
TIA
Dima
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The wombat is a mixture of chalk and clay used for respiration. -- MegaHal
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From: "Mike Buckley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: help with sound!!!
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 17:14:44 GMT
Does anyone know why I can't get my sound to work with my AMD K6-2 400Mhz
motherboard?
The sound audio adapter is bult into the motherboard (CM 18330 Audio
Adapter) In the documentaton Red Hat says that this is actually used on many
motherboards.
Linuz Red hat recognizes it but I can't seem to find the right mix of IRQ,
memory addresses, DMA's, etc to get it to work.
With the sound coming right off the motherboard one would thnk Linux would
have no trouble working with it (guess not)
As anyone run into this problem?
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From: Hubba Bubba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.dev.raid
Subject: Re: Best RAID controller for Linux
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 18:02:09 GMT
This Brownie Raid is a piece of shit (perhaps it was why the
name Brownie was used, as in baking them).
It is ATA-66 (not ATA-100 which it should have been). Serial
ATA is where external raid is headed on the low end, not conventional
IDE.
After reviewing said loaf of turd for 30 days, I can tell you
that it is horrible. Performance sucks, the box is extremely
tempermental. No TCP support, no GUI support, and no remote
communications whatsoever, unless you call a serial cable to a dumb
terminal remote. Where is the GUI support? Where is the intelligent
management?
So, basically, you can spend less and get a piece of crap, or
do it right without committing to a dead technology until *real*
external raid products become more prevalent. Ofcourse, it is a free
country, feel free to be satisfied with crap like this all you like :)
Oh, wait, I see you are a Dukie. I rest my case. Oh, and sorry
little internet nazi, I can top quote all I want to.
On 19 Apr 2001 21:26:34 GMT, Joshua Baker-LePain
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hubba Bubba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Still top quoting, huh? *sigh*
>
>> You can get U3-160 solutions for the *same* price: well, ok,
>> about $500 more. So, how exactly is that price/performance?
>
>Excuse me? Did you see the specs? 640GB of raw disk space. The
>cheapest price for a 73GB, U160 drive on pricewatch is $900. 8 of those
>those runs you $7200, already $1200 greater than my entire system, and gets
>you 56GB less raw space. And you still have to buy the chassis (which,
>for my system, cost $3300). So you're looking at *at least* $4500 more.
>
>I'd really like to know where you got your numbers.
>
>I'll leave some of the quoted material below, for the specs.
>
>> On 12 Apr 2001 17:02:21 GMT, Joshua Baker-LePain
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>>Sorry, but you are completely wrong here. Our group has a Syneraid-800
>>>(aka Brownie Raid from Axus Microsystems). The controller in this unit
>>>(which is the same controller used in Zero-D's G-Force series)
>>>is based on the Intel i960RN (64-bit) processor, which is also used in
>>>SCSI RAID products, e.g. the Adaptec 3200S and 3400S and the Mylex
>>>AcceleRAID 352. The system supports RAID levels 0, 1, 3, 5, and 0+1, as
>>>well as hot swap, hot spare, automatic drive rebuilds, and 2 redundant,
>>>hot-swappable power supplies. The channel to the host is U2W SCSI.
>>>
>>>Our unit is configured with 8 80GB 5400RPM Maxtor drives and 128MB of cache
>>>RAM. It is setup as a RAID 5 with no hot spare (560GB useable space) and
>>>having a stripe size of 128 blocks (per disk). We consistently get 25-30MB/s
>>>reading *and* writing to the system. It cost ~$US6000. That's what I
>>>call price/performance.
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From: "Andy Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: TNT2 on Mandrake7.2?
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 19:01:44 -0000
I'm having trouble getting 3D acceleration working on Mandrake7.2.
When I initially installed it, my NVidiaTNT2 card was automatically detected
with an option to run with 3D acceleration. I chose not to and now to my
dismay cannot enable it.
Harddrake doesn't give the option to use acceleration at all anymore wether
from a complete re-install, upgrade or re-configure and it's driving me up
the wall.
I can get it to work using expert mode as it asks which X version I wish to
use, but as I'm no expert I don't know what options or packages to select.
Can anyone tell me how I can get it to work (easily) either from a new
install or upgrade and if not what upgrade would be necessary to get it
going.
Thanks for any help.
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