Interesting indeed. Maybe they changes something since I used them last time. Did you try calling ?
Schlomo PS: Btw, SuSE more and more goes corporate with all the bad parts, too. On Tue, 4 Dec 2001, Daniel Feiglin wrote: > I got a reply from [EMAIL PROTECTED], and then it was magically taken over by > Shelley Davies at SuSE UK, who duckshoved it to Johnathan Thornhill at Bowline, > their South African distributor. As I said, not-so-politely below, &^%#$% to that! > > Schlomo Schapiro wrote: > > > Whom did you ask at SuSE Germany about shipping to Israel ? I got a > > shipment from them some month ago without any problem (except the price). > > > > Schlomo > > > > On Mon, 3 Dec 2001, Gold Edward wrote: > > > > > >>I can give some summary about my "quest" for the official > >>distribution in Israel SuSE . > >> > >>I tried to get SuSE latest version (7.3) from all sources -- and did not > >>succeed : > >>PF1 stopped to import it and the same situation with another company > >>from > >>Raanana which SuSE site listed as their second Israeli supplier. > >>Amazon is supplying it in U.S. only (don't know the cause)-- and the > >>same > >>situation was encountered after some > >>non-extensive checkings on other US sw. selling sites . > >> > >>BTW- not sure, but SuSE site sells it for 78 US $ "only"-- not 130. > >>I totaly agree with Nadav-Har'El opinion about this distribution first > >>class > >>quality-- > >>I used 6.1 for a long time (bought on BUG on September 1999)-- > >>but on work we could not obtain > >>SuSE 7.3 (we needed it because we thought that 2.4.15) would > >>give us some Posix IPC features. > >>SuSE site mentions that they sell only in E.U. -- very curious > >>behaviour... > >>We ended up on RH7.1 (2.4.10 & updated afterwards to 2.4.15). > >>It is an unfortunate situation that such a succesfull distribution > >>can not be easily obtained around here-- I mean their all > >>goodies, i.e. 2300 packages (and manuals). > >> > >>Edy > >> > >> > >> > >>Daniel Feiglin wrote: > >> > >> > >>>Schlomo Schapiro wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>>Hi, > >>>> > >>>>PF1/REL imported them last time I checked (by phone). I saw it also once > >>>>in a shop in JM (an old version, of course). > >>>> > >>>But they stopped. You can see V7.1 on their site. > >>> > >>> > >>>>And, they actually do have an excellend Evaluation CD (nobody else has > >>>>s.th. like this !): It boots a live filesystem from CD with all bells and > >>>>whistles installed. Including proper setup and it saves all the data + > >>>>your home dir on the local disk (vfat partition needed). > >>>> > >>>>I think this is a very good solution for the evaluation problem and people > >>>>who want to suck from this a normal installation can just boot it and copy > >>>>it over to their hard disk (and do normal RPM installs afterwards). > >>>> > >>>>Schlomo > >>>> > >>>>PS: Download it from ftp://schapiro.org > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Mon, 3 Dec 2001, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>On Mon, 3 Dec 2001, Schlomo Schapiro wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>Hi, > >>>>>> > >>>>>>I also tried to talk to them (and I speak German !) to no avail. I told > >>>>>>them that their local importers are doing them a dis-service. But they > >>>>>>told me that they have long-running contracts and that's it. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>Who is their local importer? > >>>>> > >>>>>Last time I looked at their site, there was a link to an Israeli reseller. > >>>>>The site of the Israeli reseller had no mention of SuSE (only of > >>>>>Mandrake, if you bothered digging deep enough into the site). > >>>>> > >>>>>Do you see any SuSE in any store? Do you see any Redhat or Mandrake? > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>I don't think that the problem is political, though. I see two major > >>>>>>problems: > >>>>>>1) Israel is very RedHat centric (we are soooo American !), therefore > >>>>>>there are not so many (almost NIL) people who would buy SuSE > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>SuSE sells pretty well in the US. Mandrake (originally french) is also > >>>>>doing well. Maybe some people here have problems with German products (no > >>>>>flames please, I'm only stating a fact), however I don't think that this > >>>>>is reflected in the sales of FolksWagen. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>2) SuSE doesn't bother to have importers in many countries. They are just > >>>>>>open for importers to make business with them. I imagine that the > >>>>>>Situation in Cyprus or Poland is not much better than here. It's just our > >>>>>>bad luck that we got an "Israeli" SuSE importer. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>Hmm... > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>Also, note that $130 seems pretty close to the SuSE price if you would > >>>>>>order from them directly (from Germany). > >>>>>> > >>>>>>I once ordered a package directly from them for my work and it > >>>>>>was all very well, except the 60 DM shipping cost. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>130$? > >>>>> > >>>>>If they don't start handing out evaluation CDs, (almost) no-one in Israel > >>>>>will bother with that. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>Other matters: At various times I've seen SuSE even in BUG! > >>> > >>>Why SuSE: I started out with Redhat in 5.1-2 days. 6.0 was a disaster. PF1 > >>>offered me SuSE 6.1 for peanuts, at Computax, and in terms of distro quality and > >>>scope I never looked back. I must confess that 7.1 was not brilliant, and I > >>>finished up with what in now SuSE 7.1 and a half - d/l'd kernel 2.4.9 and got > >>>KDE 2.2.1 from a CD burning outfit in the US (also cost peanuts). > >>> > >>>SuSE refused to supply me the 7.2 upgrade: They referred me to their UK dealer > >>>who said that he could only supply from South Africa. Stuff that. About 7.3: > >>>There are some rather nasty reviews floating around (LinuxPlanet) for anyone > >>>trying to upgrade using the graphics interface (yast2). 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