On Fri, 18 Jan 2002, guy keren wrote:

> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 02:07:46 +0200 (EET)
> From: guy keren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Tal Amir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: Tzafrir Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>      the linux-il mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: access problem
> 
> On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, Tal Amir wrote:
> 
> > > telnet your-server 110
> > >
> > > If and when a (tcp) connection is established, try writing the following:
> > >
> > > USER username
> > > PASS topsecretpasswordinplaintext
> > > QUIT
> >
> > telnetto port's 110 and 25 works. only mail clients cant get to
> > authonticate. this is the most wierd part (?!)
> 
> telnet - ok. but did you try doing the rest of what tzafrir suggested -
> i.e. actually emulating an email client over this connection? please
> answer with 'yes, and it worked, and i managed to login to port 110 after
> supplying a valid user and password', or say 'yes, i tried, but it failed
> with this and that error message', or say 'no, i didn't try, i will try
> now'.

thanks for the options..what would i do without you ? ;)
telnet to port 110 works and authonticates (25 as well)
with a client - nothing.
so this is not a closed port\service problem.


> 
> > there ARE NO internal interfaces.
> > 1 interface (eth0) with 1 real ip. this machine is in a dmz, and the
> > firewall translates everything to it. this is why its accesible from both
> > internal and external locations, and vice versa (it can access NAT
> > addresses).
> 
> ok, but DID you try running the netstat command tzafrir showed you anyway?
> if you didn't, please do. and there is ALWAYS one internal interface,
> namely 127.0.0.1 :P~~
> 
> and even if it doesnt' seem related, do it anyway. if you knew what the
> problem was, you wouldn't have been asking in the first place.

right, but there is a minimal sence of logic in what you try.
and yes - netstat shows the connection ONLY if i try to connect directly 
to the port via telnet.
it shows nothing when accessing with a client.

> 
> > > Use netstat -ln --tcp and see if any service listens on an address that is
> > > not 0.0.0.0 (=all interfaces).
> 
> that's what tzafrir said - i keep the quote in case you lost the former
> message.
> 
> > > * Do packets from the clients get to the server?
> > > Use tcpdump or any other sniffer. This could be a DNS problem or a routing
> > > problem.
> >
> > no routing problem. as i said, i can ping it from the internal LAN.
> > also from outside.
> > this is not the problem.
> 

correct, but it tells you if there is some kind of a block (route, 
firewall or whatever) between you and that machine.
if you cant ping it, there is not much change that anything else will get 
there.


> did you check what tzafrir suggested? he didn't say its a routing problem,
> or anything else. pings does not tell you much, other then the fact that
> ping works. it doesn't tell you if other protocols have any problems.
> 
> > > * Have you looked at the logs? Any connection attempts logged?
> > >
> > another thing i forgot to mention : syslogd is running but not logging
> > anything. the last log entry is at the same date when the hard reset
> > acourd. i dont think that there is a connection, but go figure..
> 
> i would suggest you try to solve this problem - having working logs is a
> good start to finding what's wrong, in case the imap server or pop server
> or any other server is trying to log anything.
> 
> chekc that you have a /etc/syslogd.conf file, and that it is properly
> configured (i know "i haven't changed anything" - but when nothing realy
> changes, things keep on working. if they don't - something was changed,
> regardless of how it was changed - by manual editing, by file (system)
> corruption, or anything else.
> 
> by the way, my car mechanic would have told me that i should not just
> assume things are working or not - he'd tell me that i need to actually
> check what he tells me, or else, i shouldn't bother coming to his grage
> for advice, without bringing my car.
> 

boy, i am starting to get really sorry for that example ;)



> --
> guy
> 
> "For world domination - press 1,
>  or dial 0, and please hold, for the creator." -- nob o. dy
> 

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