On Wed, 6 Mar 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> UB>> There is a world of difference between "every market ..is
> UB>> monopolized" and "monopolies arise in a free market".
>
> Did you claim that arising of monopoly is inevitable consequence of a free
> market?
And then I explained that by 'inevitable' I was refering that this is how
it worked out so far.
If you want to contradict my statement about the rise of monopolies in
free market economies, please cite a case of a free market economy where
no monopolies arose. Since you recognize the existence of Bell and
Microsoft, 20th cent. United States is obviously not a proper case to
cite.
>
> UB>> Continuing with what actually wrote - I guess in the world that
> UB>> surrounds you monopolies such as Bell (mentioned earlier in this
> UB>> thread) and Microsot do not exist. Fine.
>
> They certainly do exist. But their existance is not a consequence of a
> free market - actually, in Israel, where there is no free market on
> telefphone infrastructure, we pretty well have our own monopoly. So
> existance of Bell doesn't prove it was 'inevitable consequence of a free
> market'.
Please go back and read previous postings. I was making the distinction
before between monopolies that arise on their own in free markets, and
monopolies intentionally set up as monopolies, of which we have many
examples here.
The fact that we set one up here intentionally says nothing of the process
that made one arise elsewhere.
>
> UB>> It is not true by definition. Israeli law can declare a company
> UB>> a monopoly even when it was not initially set up as one and
> UB>> apply restrictions to it.
>
> Israel was never a country with too much of free market, to start with.
> Israel is full with all sort of regulation. Especially in highly
> monopolized areas.
Precisely. And now I shall repeat what I wrote before, with notes:
In a less regulated economy [of which Israel was not an example] a company
that becomes a monopoly is less restricted [and that is not really a good
thing]
I gave Israel as an example of a case where "started out less regulated"
does not mean that it stays that way , to contradict your statement that
what I was saying was true by definition. It is not true by definition, it
is true in a case where "free market" is assumed. In Israel, "free market"
is not necessarily assumed.
Thanks,
Uri
http://translation.israel.net
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