> On Sun, 19 May 2002, Ely Levy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You know it always amuze me when people suggest to change hebrew writing > > into latin and giving up LTR. > > You will note the Turks did this and never looked back. Other then the > people murdered by Attaturk, they seemed largely happy with that :) > > > What would you change it to? > > The latin alphabet. It has remained pretty much constant (besides the > change in the look of S -- the old look which inspired the look of the sign > for the integal) >
Sorry: the real solution is not to change to other Charset/Lang and so on.... A lot of ppl (include me for example) feel better in Hebrew, like Hebrew, and see Hebrew as the language as part of Jews tradition. Like English ppl still drive in the Left side (tradition), and still have kingdom, Israeli's can have they're culture (and language....) We don't need to do anything that possible to be like others, like European's / Americans and so on... We still Israeli's, and that OK with me.... And as we learn' from M$, LTR is not that hard to get.... Now with trolltech QT, GTK (10x to frilib) and mozilla q netscape (IBM israel) we see that to in *nix area. > > every 100 years or so there is a different > > language which is the most common. > > And for the last 2k years, all of those use largely-latin alphabet (with > some diacritics.) For even more time, it has been latin-family (the greek > alphabet is quite similar to the latin alphabet) > > > do you want to use french?english? > > They use the same charset, modulu some small differences. > > > there are more than 1 billion people in china another billion in india > > in few years their langauges might become much more common than english, > > then what would you do?change it again?to the other side? > > Japanese and Chinese can be used LTR. > Not sure what the charset of the indian languages is. > > > why won't we all move to esperanto? > > Which uses Latin-3, with a standard (well, two, but everybody who knows > esperanto can read both) encoding into ASCII-only (originally invented > by Zamenhof, a very smart Jew, for compatibility with printers). > > So, what was your point again? > Note that the Dutch have largely given up the use of non-ASCII letters, > even on street signs in Amsterdam. Spanish people do not use the non-ASCII > characters in electronic media (well, I only know Argentinian people). > My Russian speaking friend had this very same flamewar, and his Russian > only mailing list moved to transliteration of Russian, all in ASCII. > Some word to all of u on Hebrew support in Linux: Look ! i saw here that to connect to the INTERNET its much easy than to use / configure Hebrew: Sorry: but in any fresh new Dist, u have out-of-the-box Hebrew in X server. U also have some support out-of-the-box in console in few dist (at list Mdk 8.2 have it !) I my self have ISDN. to connect my LAN (rh 7.2) to the Net, i use script that i built (i used some script's from the net, and rewrite them to my needs). Its took me like 7 hours to do it ! ! ! ! (in other distro's - like RH 6.2 - i used KISDN software, but RH 7.2 buggy in the X progi for ISDN, and server need to run in terminal...) there same distro have some nice Hebrew support, even newbies can use Hebrew in few seconds ! (Again in X server). I myself really like terminal (for server's and administration's thing's), but for browsing the net, for fun , and even in developing, i like to use X (in fast machine, i like to use xterm / konsule for CMD, for vim and...) I really think that kmail and mozilla mail client (ver 1.0 rc2 of mozilla fixed lot of bug's with Hebrew) do all the job that needed to talk in Hebrew, it's simple, and its work just fine .... (KMAIL have really really good Hebrew support and its powerful mail client !) Most of newbies use Hebrew, but some non newbies user's, also use, or want to use Hebrew, and we (or you, i am new here) need to give them what they need and want's.... (without to hurt the existing, high quality i must to say, list) So i vote for: 2 mailing list: This one, in English only, and the other one, in both language ! This is best solution, that anybody can live with it Sorry for my poor English (I speak badly - but can read better) B.T.W - my not best English is the reason y whan i need help / support , i search myself (10x u google) and dont use Israeli's mailing list (even whan it's come to subject's that i know that this and other mailing list is built for theme). Regards Happy linux Barak Bloch mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]` > ================================================================= > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ================================================================= To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
