Shlomi Fish wrote:

>Hi Oded!
>
>I love it that people decide the victim is the one responsible. 
>
I have not examined all the evidence, but even judging from just what 
you said my opinion is that you are in the wrong (and like any human, 
I'm sure you are at least just a tiny bit biased in your favor) - if not 
morally and ethicly, then at least in your attitude.

><snip>
>
>Granted, the post to
>bitkeeper-users was off-topic, and may have been trollish. I did not know
>it was off-topic at the time.
>
Hmm.. sounds familiar ;-)

> Furthermore, I believed I did Larry a favour
>by opening the bitkeeper-license mailing list.
>
That may be, time would tell - but I don't consider opening a mailing 
list for discussions on the licensing policies of other people's 
software, w/o getting said persons' premission first, to be done in good 
faith, and I don't fault Larry for not taking to it gracefully.

>flame-bait and irrational Larry McVoy is. (if you want I can send you a very
>insulting letter he sent me). 
>
No thank you. You are talking about the life's work and mind creation of 
a person as its a commodity and property of the community in general, 
when its obvious that the author does not see it that way - I too would 
have been very sensitive and highly flamable on a subject like this.

>I am trying to free BK or outcompete it
>(preferably the first option). 
>
You are talking about taking control of another person's creation w/o 
that persons agreement (!!) most people would call that outright theft - 
I do not understand how can you not understand Larrry's reaction to that.

>And I now decided that I am pro BK not against it, 
>
Good for you.

>3. Removing the data without my explicit permission is something I
>consider a malicious misplacement of information.
>
The storage space was not yours in the first place - you have nothing to 
complain about. it would have been wrong to use your "intelectual 
property" w/o your premission, but as they only deleted it, I see 
nothing wrong here. it would be nice of them to give you a fair warning, 
but that's all.
Wait a second - am I smelling a whiff of double standards here ?

I don't agree with Larry McVoy's licensing policy or the use 
requirements he forces on BK users, which is the only reason why my 
company is not using BitKeeper today, but after all its his software to 
do with which he peleases - and that IMHO is the real cause behind the 
free software movement: that you are free to release your software under 
which license that you choose and be judge by its merits (and licensing 
policy) alone.

You may use BitKeeper according to its terms of use, or you may choose 
not to, you may write your own SCM software suit or PR another, you may 
even talk harshly about Larry McVoys licensing policy. but you may not, 
ever, activly take steps to undermine a person's control or ownership of 
the software he or she has written. Once Larry McVoy said that he will 
not GPL BitKeeper, then thats it. end of discussion.

--
Oded 

::..
Every journalist has a novel in him, which is an excellent place for it.



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