On Tue, Mar 04, 2003, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote about "Browsers, compatility, and price":
> As my previous boss in Tehila told me: 
> "Hetz, there are 2 ways to choose from:
> 
> 1. A repsectable company who will build the site with PHP, MySQL and will 
> fully check that their web site will work on  various browsers - those 
> companies ask for X*2 price
> 2. A small company who will build the site on IIS, with ASP and will only 
> check it against latest version of Explorer - they will ask for X price.."
> 
> Guess who wins the bid?

Who said these are the only two option??? Maybe your boss was simply
ignorant?

What happens if you take the cheaper company and tell them "don't do me
any favors - don't write javascript, don't write any flash animations.
I want every link in the page to be an HTML <A HREF=...>". What do you
think will happen? They'll increase their price? I seriously doubt that.
Their work will actually become easier!

> 1. Konqueror, Opera - these browser do whatever they can to support what 
> Opera's CEO calls "streets HTML" - which means either non standard HTML or 
> buggy behaviors - both browsers support those kind of HTML in addition to the 
> W3C standards - that way you can browse many problematic sites.

And what about support for Microsoft-invented Javascript? And ActiveX?
And if Konqueror and Opera support this, what will prevent Microsoft from
coming up with more crazy changes later? Remember, it's exactly those
incompatibilities that cause Microsoft users to upgrade their OS and
applications. Try to stick with "MS Word 95", and see if the Windows-junkies
don't laugh at you just as hard as they laugh at Linux users.

> Financially speaking - writing a web site and maintaining it work with the 
> latest variant browsers is a PITA. You got tons of quirks to do in order to 
> make the site look good on MSIE and Mozilla, and that part alone sometimes 

To look good, yes, it's a PITA. To make it *work* however, is not.

In fact, it takes a lot of effort to make it NOT WORK. I still can't believe
some people (like the boss you described) don't get it...

Note that sites like Egged's or Bank Leumi are meant to be used, not
admired (unlike, for example, a site advertising some movie which you
are supposed to go out and see in the cinema), so if the people in charge
there asked for "cute" features like sophisticated Javascripts - they
completely didn't understand the job they were asked to do.


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