On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 10:57:25AM +0200, Ira Abramov wrote:
> Quoting Alon Altman, from the post of Tue, 11 Mar:
> > > Or maybe, it may go into the 3'rd CD (in an UPDATES subdir).  I'm
> > > not sure the 3'rd CD has enough space though.
> > 
> >  The CDs have already been sent to be copied, and the updates take
> >  almost a full CD by themselves.
> 
> and this is why, girls and boys, I would never touch a *.0 Red Hat
> edition with a 30 meter pole.
> 
> RHL8 has been out less than half a year, and has caused:
> 
> functionality breaks due to beta builds
> functionality headaches due to Unicode incomplete support in apps
> functionality slowdown due to Unicode bugs (grep for instance)
> Configuration breakage with old versions, upgrade path was not smooth.
> a few security holes that could not be avoided
> didn't check, but maybe a few sec holes that COULD have been avoided.
> 
> and now you tell me the updates themselves take up about 600 meg?
> youch!
> 
> better install Debian sid, IMSBO. got newer software but miracleously
> better stability, and none of that premature Unicode voodoo.

While I agree with the spirit of your mail, I want to add that sid
is not always newer. It got X 4.2 many months after RH73, and KDE3
is still not builtin, and the upgrade path from at least one version
of outside-maintained KDE3 debs to the to-be standard is not smooth
either. I personally use sid and am happy with it, but to say it's
always the newest is not accurate. It's basically up to the package
maintainer - especially in "always-beta" stuff like wine, you do get
regular updates, but in important things like X it takes quite a lot
of time between an upstream release and an official deb - which is
usually heavily patched compared to upstream. At least for X, Debian
is the de-facto porting team - upstream works on very few archs,
compared to Debian.

        Didi

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