On Tue, Mar 11, 2003, Ira Abramov wrote about "Re: Insta Party!": > Quoting Alon Altman, from the post of Tue, 11 Mar: > > The CDs have already been sent to be copied, and the updates take > > almost a full CD by themselves. > > and this is why, girls and boys, I would never touch a *.0 Red Hat > edition with a 30 meter pole.
Ira, you're completely misdirected on this issue. Almost all of these "errata" are because of actual vulnerabilities discovered in software included in Redhat, not some "*.0" illnesses. Just to name the most recent serious incident, sendmail was updated after a remote vulnerability was discovered. Updates exists for Redhat 8.0, but also for Redhat 7.3, 6.2, and (yes!) Debian. Continuing to use a 1 year old distribution does *not* save you from the need to continuously upgrade when security flaws are found. Besides, as I explained once and again, newbies *must* be given only the *latest* release available, because such a release will always support newer hardware better, and support Hebrew better. If you give someone Redhat 7.3, the next thing you know this list will be flooded with questions like "I'm trying to upgrade to KDE ... for the improved Hebrew but I'm having troubles", "X doesn't support my video card", "Mozilla has bugs in Hebrew", and so on... > RHL8 has been out less than half a year, and has caused: > > functionality breaks due to beta builds > functionality headaches due to Unicode incomplete support in apps > functionality slowdown due to Unicode bugs (grep for instance) I don't know anybody that this ever bothered... On the other hand many people are quite pleased by the better support for Unicode... Maybe you call this support "premature" because you yourself chose not to use it, perhaps because you use English almost exclusively on your system? > and now you tell me the updates themselves take up about 600 meg? > youch! The updates are simply whole packages that were replaced. It includes the entire KDE, mozilla, apache, kernels - so no wonder it takes about 500 MB... > better install Debian sid, IMSBO. got newer software but miracleously > better stability, and none of that premature Unicode voodoo. As a Debian user in the last few months, I'd like to disagree. Debian was not more stable than Redhat (e.g., we had some glibc problems that I never saw in Redhat), was slower in sending out updates (e.g., to close the sendmail hole). It certainly wasn't bad, but I wouldn't say it wins over Redhat with one hand behind its back. -- Nadav Har'El | Tuesday, Mar 11 2003, 7 Adar II 5763 [EMAIL PROTECTED] |----------------------------------------- Phone: +972-53-245868, ICQ 13349191 |The two rules for success are: 1. Never http://nadav.harel.org.il |tell them everything you know. ================================================================= To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
