On Sun, Jun 01, 2003 at 12:38:34PM -0700, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:
> hola all,
> 
> i'm an american trying to brush up on hebrew.  other than temple, the
> last time i spoke or wrote hebrew was back in my apple ][ days.  ;)
> 
> i'm running debian testing, but have some packages like pango and
> abiword pinned to unstable.
> 
> been playing around with abiword.   found the "shalom" font, which looks
> nice.

What fonts are you using?

Install the culmus fonts (the package is called "culmus")

> 
> there's also another abiword font "ktav yad", but it doesn't show up.
> the cursor moves over like a character is being placed, but the font
> isn't actually rendered.  i assume that ktav yad is a hebrew font --
> doesn't it mean "writing hand"?
> 
> * any ideas on why ktav yad isn't displaying at all?

I'll try later abiword with culmus's "ktav"

> 
> also, the shalom font is nice, but i've spent the past hours trying to
> map out the keystrokes.  the consonants were easy, but the vowels are a
> nightmare.  sometimes a vowel comes with a consonant (shift-a is an
> aleph with a patach) and sometimes you type a keystroke after the
> consonant (like typing y shift-e produces a yud with a segol).

What keymap do you have in mind?  I think that this is not the standard
one used in Israel.

> 
> the rules for deleting or changing or deleting a vowel or the consonant
> above a vowel is pretty arcane.
> 
> this is taking much longer than it should, and i'd think all this would
> be documented somewhere.  google turned up nothing useful.
> 
> * has anyone mapped this font or know where i can find info on it?
> 
> * is there a word processor with better hebrew support than abiword?
> 
> my main word processor is vim.  on debian testing:
> 
>    $ vim -H
>    E26: Hebrew cannot be used: Not enabled at compile time

What vim package do you use? Use any package which is not the "basic"
one (I think that anyone besides "vim-tiny" will do. I use "vim-gtk")

> i assume once i get vim displaying hebrew, hebrew with latex will be
> less painful...

Naturally. Install the package ivritex

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