On Mon, 2003-08-18 at 01:30, guy keren wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Aug 2003, Amir Tal wrote:
> 
> > debian sid, dell inspiron 4000 laptop.
> > installed kernel-image-2.6.0-test2-1 with apt-get. installation went
> > fine. took a look at lilo.conf after installing, looks ok to me.
> > when booting the new kernel i get a kernel panic, and a message that
> > tells meto append a correct "root=" option in lilo.conf.
> >
> > running lilo returnes to errors, and the old image (who uses the same
> 
>                        ^^^^
> 
>          is that 'to' or 'not'? if it's 'to' (which is odd, anyway) - what
> are the errors?

thats a "no"..sorry for that...it returned NO errors.

> 
> > parameter from lilo, root=/dev/hda3, boots just fine.
> >
> > images are in the right place in /boot with the correct names, and links
> > from "/" are ok and matching entries in lilo.conf.
> 
> (note: the following is written in a didactic tone - not in a scorning,
>        angry or "you don't know anything" tone - so please read it that
>        way)
> 
> here you are, hiding important information from the public, and yet expect
> ideas to come. someone here asked about debugging lately -
> 
>  the first rule of debugging is - never make assumptions about what works.
>  the second rule of debugging is - never make assumptions about what works.
>  the third rule of debugging is -
> 
>  hmmm... well, i think i shouldn't mention that third rule - you wouldn't
>  like it anyway.
> 
> anyway, you should not tell us where there are no problems. if you gave up
> on finding the problem yourself and you refer to the list for help - you
> supply _all_ the information, and you don't "force" your own assumptions
> on us - one of them is _probably_ wrong, or you would have solved the
> problem already.

ok teacher, now its time to say what i "assumed" and "didnt supply" .
you wanna use "didactic" tone ? fine. at least explain what you mean..
all i said is that running lilo returns no errors, this is not an
assumption, this is a fact. its also a fact that all the files and
sym-links are at the correct location..what else did i "hide from the
public" ?? :)
> 
> so, mind writing again, and this time, without "information hiding" and
> "data encapsulation"? we want the private members of "amir's problem" to
> be made public ;)
> 
> here are some things you've hidden:
> 
> - what does it mean that 'installation went fine'? does it mean that you
>   saw no errors, or that the installation also has a 'test' optoin, that
>   performs post-installation tests which report that the installation
>   meets all post-install conditions?

"installation went fine" means that there were no errors during the
installation, and no ugly debug or any other output for that matter,
that may point out that something is wrong. i went just like a normal
deb package installation, with all post and pre scripts executed like
they should, and everything indicated that the proccess completed like
it normaly should.. 
> - what is the contents in lilo.conf that "looks ok to you" ?

debian adds a LOT of inline little howto's into all of their conf files,
and since the resault is a pretty long file, its pointless to send it to
the list. a based my "assumption" on the fact that i have an entry in
lilo.conf to the old kernel image as well, and its loading with no
problem, using the same configuration file. 
> - _what_ kind of kernel panic message do you get?

scroll up and read what i wrote. i am being asked to append a correct
option for "root=" in lilo.conf. current entry points to /dev/hda3,
which is the correct information for lilo to use (otherwise the older
image would not load as well..)

> - what is the _exact_ message?

ohh, dont make me reboot now, please... :)
its 1 line, i dont remember the exact syntax, but basicly it goes
something like "unable to mount vfs filesystem, please append a corrent
"root=" in lilo.conf .
> - what are the 'ok' paths and links?

# ll / |grep vmlinuz
lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           31 Aug 18 06:16 vmlinuz ->
/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.0-test2-1-386
lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           26 Aug 18 06:16 vmlinuzOLD ->
/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.18-bf2.4



# ll /boot/ |grep vmlinuz
-rw-r--r--    1 root     root      1263339 Jul 19 23:44
vmlinuz-2.4.18-bf2.4
-rw-r--r--    1 root     root      1061194 Aug  1 22:48
vmlinuz-2.6.0-test2-1-386



# lilo
Added Linux *
Added Linux-2.4.18
Added Linux(hda1

OK ??  :)




> - did you read the post shaul karl sent here about installing kernel 2.6?
>   what did you do about it?

actually, no i didn't.... i'll look it up in the archives.
> 
> (by the way, i'm not expecting a reply to the first item - but i do
> expect a reply regarding the rest of them).

well, you got it anyway :)


> 
> waiting for your next post,
-- 
Amir Tal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Whatsup - hebrew Linux portal.


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