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On Wednesday 19 May 2004 17:12, Ariel Biener wrote:
> > I have several web site with very minior number of visitors but from time
> > to time I use them to transfer large (as in 60M) files. I have several
> > email boxes witha LOT of emails and I keep all my emails on the servers
> > and use IMAP over SSL. I also need some very simple CGI/PHP ability.
> >
> > I want a service which Linux or other Free Unix like based, includes
> > support for multiple domains, IMAP, ssh access and the ability to run CGI
> > and/OR PHP. Over 1G of file system space, have a fast connection to
> > Israeli site and it must have a back service.
>
> So you're looking to host a few web sites and your own stuff on a
> multi-domain server, owned by the ISP, rather than host a server of your
> own. Right ?
Not exactly. I don't need my own dedicated machine. What I would like is
control over my setup. Most "virtual hosting" setup, as the multi domain
servers are called, are extremly limited in what they provide - for example
POP, but not IMAP, or very limited number of email accounts, or lack of
features (ability to installed procmail scripts etc.)
So what I need is the flexability and control of a dedicated server with the
price point that comes when you share hardware with other users.
In the big world there are solutions that meet my requirement which are known
as "virtual private servers" which rely on some form or another of OS
virtualizations, be it the VServer projects I mentioned, UML or similar
technologies for *BSD OS (for example, these guys: http://www.escapebox.net)
My problem is that I haven't found a service provider that supports this in
Isreal.
> > My dream configuration would a virtual private host using something like
> > the Linux VServer project (http://www.linux-vserver.org/) + backup in
> > some IIX connected ISP machine room (dedicated machines costs too much
> > and regular virtual web gosting offers too little), but I didn't manage
> > to find any such offer from an Israeli ISP or hosting provider.
>
> Have you only tried ISPs like BezeqINT, Barak, GoldenLines, Internet Zahav
> & Netvision (to quote the large ones), or have you also tried hosting
> services like Interspace for example ?
>From the ISP groups I have yet to find anyone that competes with Actcom, in
this regard as well as others. However, none of them provide the server I
want.
Same thing with the hosting providers and I've looked.
>
> > Actcom's 100$ per month for a dedicated 1U solution is the closest thing
> > to what I want - but it doesn't include any backup.
>
> What kind of prices are you aiming at ? Have you tried finding out what
> would a solution similar to what you state above would cost in the US (not
> in order to host it there, but in order to have a relatively acurate price
> estimate of such solution) ?
Yes, I have researched the out of Israel price points. The service I look for
costs somewhere between 15$ - 70$ (depending on resource usage and amount of
sharing with other users) outside of Israel and I'm OK with a
35$ level for my specific needs. However, as I said I could not locate such a
service in Israel.
>
> I think $100/month is a low price for what you're looking for.
Since Actcom offers 100$/month for a *dedicated server* it's obvious that a
"virtual private server" will cost less, so I don't see why you think so.
>
> > Any suggestions?
>
> I'd try the ones who do hosting + backup. Since the location of the hosting
> is not interesting to you (you're not hosting a real machine), then I'd try
The location of the machine is irrelevant. High bandwidth and fast response
time form Israeli connected networks is.
> Internet Zahav, Netvision, BezeqINT for the ISP side (they all provide
> solutions that include backup, etc), and also, would try hosting sites like
> Interspace, who are connected to the IIX as well, and are a reseller of
> Verio NTT in Israel -> http://www.interspace.net/
I don't think you understood the service I'm looking for exactly. Think of a
single server running multiple competly seperated *BSD style jail() systems,
with different IPs + a backup service. Single hardware, multiple OS
"instanaces" or the apperanace of such.
Hey, if no one really sells them in Israel maybe it's a business opurtunity.
Anyone want to grab it? I'm willing to pay the first few month by creating
all the software setup required for such a solution, I just don't want the
headache to manage it afterwards... :-)
Thanks,
Gilad
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