On Tuesday 07 December 2004 22:20, guy keren wrote: > On Tue, 7 Dec 2004, Lior Kesos wrote: > > Anyway after hearing no objections I contacted linked in started the > > proccess to register there. > > There is a license agreement here which whomever is interested can > > overview... I'm mirroring this onwards because I want to perform that > > wedding cermenony of.. "Whoever is against this please comment now!"
"The wedding ceremony" and contract is not really a substitute of polling the list and deciding whether to start the whole thing. Don't forget that you are trying to marry Linkedin on one hand, and about a hundred list subscribers, not including the future ones, on the other. Somebody (Lior?) are representing the group and decides alone who goes to the list's Linkedin community and who's not. How is that connected to free subscription to the Linux-IL? > the actions mentioned below mean we have to make linux il's web site > pretend to endorse some service, and we then need to spam people? > can you describe what are the _mandatory_ actions from the list you > > posted? according to their web site, these are all mandatory. lets see: > > here it is... > > http://download.linkedin.com/corporate/product/groups/group_services_agre > >ement.pdf > > > > The only thing I see as an issue is the next clause... > > > > REQUIRED LAUNCH AND MANAGEMENT ACTIVITIES > > > > This section describes the activities we expect your group to perform > > in exchange for the free service offered. They are designed to get > > higher adoption rates and better service quality for your group > > members. Some of these activities are mandatory others are optional. > > > > * Comply with LinkedIn's Trademark Usage Guidelines (attached as > > Appendix A) > > i'm not sure what these are - i'll imagine they are normal trademark law > things... > > this means sending a _personal_ email to each group member, to their > private mail box? blah.... or to the entire list? sending more then one is > redundant and annoying.. Well if we post the invitation to the list, it will almost inevitably reach us all. Well, I think I can handle seeing the same email appear on the list three times without bursting a blood vessel, even within 60 days. > > > * Display (i) the LinkedIn logo, (ii) a short description about > > Your Group Service Launch and (iii) information about how to join Your > > Group Service on Your Group's website from the date of the release of > > Your Group Service to You by LinkedIn and until at least 6 months from > > that date, if You have a website. > > this is a "semi-permanent link-exchange" scheme... So there must be a section with information on how to join our Linkedin Community... right? Isn't that one of the things we are starting that discussion for? > > * Display the LinkedIn Logo on Your Site in the "Events" or > > "Partners" or similar section of Your Site, including brief text > > description and link, for the duration of this agreement, if there is > > such a website in existence. > > even worst - it must be on the home page, since we have an 'events' box on > the home page? and we have no 'partners' nor similar section. So we shall make a "Partners" one, just for LinkedIn for now. Not really a big deal. > > > * If feasible include the static invitation link to Your Group > > Service in the footer of all letters sent (if You send out regular > > newsletters to Your members). The link can be in text only or html gif > > button format. > > we'll just claim this is not feasible, i presume. Not nesessarily. Say, one line on the list footer. I can live with that. > > * Regularly but not less that every two weeks check in your Groups > > administration tool for "requests for group memberships" and either > > contact, approve or decline the pending requests. > > that's a personal issue for the admin, no effect on linux-il. > > here is another clause from their page: > > You warrant to LinkedIn that You have the right to provide LinkedIn with a > list of the names of Your Group Members. I think we should try to clearly define "right" first. :) > (the above appears at sectoin 1 of their agreement that you (who is you? > you personally? the entire group) must "i agree" to. "You" is the legal representative of Linux-IL, the group administrator that is authorised to enter the agreement with LinkedIn on behalf of all Linux-IL members. Elections? > there's some mention about giving e-mail addresses of the members, but > this is written in a softened manner ("should you want to, you have the > right to give the addresses". thus, declare to never want to - and you > comply with their requirements). > > i say - hmmmmm.... Hmmm indeed. That's why we really should poll the list before actually attempting to do whatever we consider A Right Thing(tm). -- Sincerely Yours, Vasiliev Michael (not wearing the moderator hat) NP: XMMS is not loaded. ================================================================= To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
