On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 10:52:14 +0200
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yedidyah Bar-David) wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 26, 2005 at 10:25:58AM +0200, Ira Abramov wrote:
> > Quoting Tzafrir Cohen, from the post of Wed, 26 Jan:
> > > On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 04:28:12PM +0200, Micha Feigin wrote:
> > > 
> > > > first also makes people use c++ as a functional language instead of as
an OO
> > > > language.
> > > 
> > > Just to get the terminology right: I figure you meant "procedural".
> > 
> > every 9-12 months, this argument about the best first language comes up.
> > half of the people arguing with opinions they won't gudge from and half
> > trying to throw in half-knowledgable remarks to show they too exist, and
> > never does anyone agree.
> > 
> > so allow me to add to the tradition! Python, gentlemen! it can be OO or
> > Procedural (and even pure functional I was once told). the syntax is
> > clean, very little syntactic sugar, no odd compilersyntax for a newbie
> > to learn, richer than Java, clearer than C and C++, and more widely used
> > in the practical world than Pascal or LISP.
> 
> And, may I add, has a nice, free book, called "Learning with Python".
> Maybe not as deep as "Structure and Interpretation ...", but not bad
> either.
> 

Notice that "Structure and Interpretation ..." is not a lisp book, it used lisp
as a tool. Will have to look at learning python though, always wondered if its
going to be useful enough for me to spend the time learning, although I think
that for my work I am stuck with matlab and c (really don't feel like learning
fortran at this point ;-)

> > 
> > Now get ready to rumbooooooooooooollllll!
> 
> Did you mean "Rambo", or "Rebol"? I am sure you'll find people that will
> be in favour of Rebol as a first language.
> :-)
> -- 
> Didi
> 
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