On Sat, May 14, 2005 at 10:33:42AM +1000, Amos Shapira wrote:
> On 5/13/05, Yedidyah Bar-David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > common as a server. So the crackers develop means to break linux
> > servers. If/When linux is very common on the desktop, you'll start
> > seeing the same there.
> 
> Same flawed FUD used by the MS camp. Apache is the most common
> web server in the world and still it is cracked much less than IIS.
> Same situation (server, public net) still different results.
> 
> > To get to even more philosophical ideas - I must say I do not accuse MS
> > for behaving the way it behaves. I accuse the users. Users want "Bread
> 
> I *DO* accuse MS. They kept reasoning that people want convenience
> and that they must compromise security to give it to them.

I never intended to imply that in order to give convenience you have
to compromise security. What I wanted to say is that MS gives people
what they want. Most people do not care much about security, so MS
does not invest in it. Of course doing both is possible, as you showed.

Or maybe I should say, people do not care _enough_ about security. They
(most of them) would not consider moving off Windows only because it's
not (less?) secure. I also guess that most people say to themselves that
Windows can't be _that_ bad, or else less and less people would use it.
"A billion flies can't be wrong. Eat shit!".

All of this, BTW, refers to a few years ago. Recent years changed
both the understanding of the average users and their options. But I
am not sure that we are close to "World Domination (tm)". I am
personally waiting for this since 1997, when Byte first had the item
"Linux in a Gray Flannel Suit". Oh was I excited! 
-- 
Didi


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