Shlomi Fish wrote:

What's an IPIGgie?



Sorry for inventing acronyms on you without giving enough clues.

PIGgies is a nickname for (one) common name convention for local Python-Interest-Groups.
It's generally *PIG* with extra letters added to refer to your locality.


* python_mod-enabled Apache server would be best.
* A wiki (preferably MoinMoin).
* Support for posting/forum-management
* Hebrew.




Bleh... why not simply static HTML? Or at most a MediaWiki? MoinMoin is a bit hard to set up, and I like TWiki (which is very hard to set up and has awful code and some idionsyncracies), and MediaWiki (which is incredibly easy to set up, with excellent i18n, and lots of nice features) much better. I don't suppose it's necessary for a Python site to be pure-Python, right? With some


In fact I've done quite a lot of static HTML (using Emacs) in my days (even a bit of cgi using python), but was superseded by more "modern" fashions.
Personally I would rather people concentrate on contents than shiny widgets, but we should appeal to the larger community, which seem to include many young enthusiastic people that care about graphic design and website technology (much more than I do, at least).


Note that as opposed to many other new technologies, I do support Wiki - and that's because it makes the authors focus on contents, and leaves the 'programming type' work to the system/site maintainer.

About python technology (e.g. MoinMoin) - as I said, I completely agree that there's no need to make the site pure-python.

But - I believe it would be in everyone's interest if in time we pass as much as possible of the site's (co-)management tasks to "real python enthusiasts".
By definition, there's a single common denominator to these people - they like Python.
If we want such people to volonteer, we should have as much python technology enabled as possible (e.g. - site co-maintainers might wish to configure & extend the wiki engine - in MoinMoin that's naturally done using python).
I believe that this is well worth the extra setup trouble.


DNS help I can setup python.iglu.org.il. or python.linux.org.il, or python.hackers.org.il on eskimo.



That would be nice.
But I'd rather you considered a python-based wiki after all.

I know some people who successfuly set up a MoinMoin wiki (reasonable hebrew support) on our intranet.
I'll talk to them on Sunday, but I'm willing to help setting this up myself if you have any trouble.


Note that I can do all that once eskimo (= iglu.org.il) is upgraded to Sarge. Until then while it's still on Woody it would be quite problematic.

Another note is that unless someone volunteers to code the site, and show me some stuff, I'd rather not use Python for that.



As I said - fine by me.
If you setup a site, and no one else chips in I might provide some (static) contents (sigh... more 3am work - I see it coming...)




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