Same story here. I signed up for a year, and after the
year ended they told me I have too pay 2000 NIS for
the next year (that's 166 NIS a month!) because of
high bandwidth usage. So I guess that's what they need
the monitoring for.

I'm also a happy Netvision customer now. Although
having a static IP was pretty cool.

--Alex


--- "El-al, Netta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> this is what i have to say about actcom:
> last year i got sick of bezeqint's crappy service
> and their hanging up on me every time i uttered the
> word linux so i switched to actcom. they were a
> little more expensive but offered me a deal for a
> half a year for fifty something shekels for 1.5M.
> after a half a year, they started charging me about
> 100 shekels so i called them up and asked them what
> deal they could offer me now.
> they said that since my download bandwidth usage was
> over 9G a month that it wasn't worth it for them and
> they couldn't offer me anything better!
> so i switched to netvision who give me 1.5M for
> forty something shekels without having to even agree
> to be with them for a minimum amount of time.
> also, my new connection is much better because
> apparently actcom was putting a limiter on the
> connection...
> so as much as i like actcom's attitude towards
> linux, i don't think it justifies paying more than
> twice as much for less bandwidth...
> oh, and another annoying thing about them - they
> charged me on the 24th of each month for the service
> of the month after, so when i called to cancel, they
> couldn't even reimburse me on the days that i no
> longer wanted their service.
> so to sum it up, imho, actcom sux.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
> Ido Kanner
> > Sent: Wed, September 21, 2005 12:08 PM
> > To: Linux-IL
> > Subject: Actcom without a dailer costs more
> > 
> > 
> > Hi list,
> > 
> > Recently I updated my 4 years old account in
> Actcom (this is 
> > my 4th year).
> > After watching the price of the account in my
> office, I found 
> > out that I pay a
> > lot more for a lot less. That is I pay 760 NIS for
> 750 
> > without a dialer, while
> > at work we pay a lot less for a faster connection.
> 
> > 
> > BTW I was told that if I'll move to a dialer, it
> will cost me 
> > 200 NIS less !!!
> > 
> > After a long talk with the finance, I found out
> that the 
> > reason for that is
> > that I do not use a dailer, and the CO of Actcom
> decided that 
> > users without a
> > dialer should pay more, alto as most of you know,
> the 
> > infurstracture and the
> > technical stuff for Radius and other servers that
> are working 
> > in the background
> > requires a lot more work (not to mention the
> support team 
> > that need to handle
> > very stupid issues such as passowrd lost,
> incurrect login 
> > issues etc) ...
> > 
> > The finance person also mentioned that I need to
> pay more, 
> > because a dialer
> > gives them (Actcom) the ability to monitor
> connections. But 
> > on LAN (you all know
> > that cables connection is a LAN) you can monitor
> activities 
> > as well, and not to
> > mention that a dialer and the rest of the servers
> that you 
> > pass along the way
> > makes the connection slower.
> > 
> > Now don't get me wrong, I really like Actcom, and
> the fact 
> > that they support our
> > community is a hugh Plus for me, and thats even
> before I 
> > mention their very good
> > tech and Linux support etc..
> > 
> > But I do not wish to have a dialer, And I do not
> like the 
> > fact that the user
> > should handle PPP connections for such thing. ADSL
> btw also 
> > does not really
> > requires user intervention (L2TP is the protocol
> that ADSL talks, and
> > theoretically the ADSL router should make the
> converting 
> > between Ethernet and
> > ADSL on it's own).
> > 
> > BTW If they will not give a better price, I don't
> think that 
> > I will continue
> > working with them next year ...
> > 
> > What do you think ?
> > 
> > Ido
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >
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