On Wed, Sep 28, 2005 at 03:03:06PM +0300, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 28, 2005 at 02:27:57PM +0300, Uri Even-Chen wrote:
> > Ira Abramov wrote:
> > >that's because MS are a**h&&es and don't think Israel uses summer clock.
> > >Asia/Jerusalem on win machines is GMT+2 year round 
> > 
> 
> I hate to defend Microsoft, but it's not their fault. Most countries
> that have daylight savings time set it to a standard such as starting
> the first Sunday in April and ending the first Sunday in October and
> NEVER change it.

In Brazil things are even worse. What does Windows do there?

> 
> In Israel, the start of daylight savings is a politcal issue and changes
> whenever an M.K. has nothing better to do and wants to make some news
> for his party. Since it affects whether or not people go to morning 
> prayers in darkness, on when the fast days start, it is also a 
> relegious issue. 

This is the past. As of last year the date for the clock change is set
in the law.

> 
> This year is a prime example, the end of daylight savings time changed
> recently. Microsoft just gave up and decided to let those who care fix it,
> and those that don't ignore it.
> 
> Even if they had produced a patch, how many people would apply it? I know
> people "happly" running windows 95 and 98 (first edition) who have NEVER
> applied a patch in their lives. 

Ever heard of "windows updates"? At least give people the option to do
the right thing.

> 
> In Windows/xp  there is an automatic patch mechanism. 

Even in win98.

> How many people you
> know that run Windows use it? How many on this list would recommend it?
> Since it's not a "security patch", it's only available to users who
> actually bought a license for Windows. What percent of Windows systems
> in Israel actually have a valid license?

That's their problem. It gives Microsoft yet another place to
demonstrate where a legal copy is better, doessn't it?

> 
> Did Red Hat, Suse, DebIan, Ubuntu, Knoppix, Mandrivia, etc produce a
> "high priority patch for Israel only"? Did the UNIX vendors Sun, Apple 
> (I'll have to check my Macintosh)? Did IBM produce one for their Mainframes,
> and automaticly apply it?

Not Isreali-specific. But glibc regularily updates, and it is quite rare
to have an up-to-date distro glibc package and incorrect Israeli
timezone data. Not since 2001.

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