On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 10:23 +0200, Elazar Leibovich wrote:
> Are you quite sure this is necessary?
> In debian, you just 'apt-get upgrade' can't you immitate it with RH?

As mentioned before - Nope. 
Its not an inherent weakness of RPM based distros - if that's what you
were thinking - I have successfully upgraded in the past live Mandriva
installations from one major to another (sometimes even 2 majors
remote), both full and partial upgrades, and I'm pretty sure you can do
as well in SuSE.
But it can't be done with RedHat/Fedora, see previous thread - "Yum
problem (or: do RedHat suck ? why, yes they do!)".


> On 6/11/06, Oded Arbel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>         
>         On Sat, 2006-06-10 at 19:42 -0700, E Leibovich wrote:
>         
>         Given a live server that runs many relatively uncommon
>         programs (for instance openACS) and which runs RH9.
>         How would you upgrade it with minimal downtime?
>         If minimal downtime is what you want, then you have to get
>         another box - install it with the OS of your choice and verify
>         it works, mail it to the US and install it near the old box,
>         stop all the services on the old box, migrate all the data
>         over and start the new one. If done properly - and depending
>         on the amount of data and what can be copied before stopping
>         the service - you'd be looking at 30 minutes to two hours
>         downtime. 
>         
>         Last time I did something like this it took me about a week to
>         get the new machine to work the way I want (after it was
>         installed on the rack), and then about 15 minutes for the move
>         - of which, of course, only the 15 minutes were actual
>         downtime.
> 


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