On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 09:51 +0300, Nadav Har'El wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 10, 2006, E Leibovich wrote about "Upgrading live RH9":
> > Given a live server that runs many relatively uncommon
> > programs (for instance openACS) and which runs RH9.
> > How would you upgrade it with minimal downtime?
> > 1) Is upgrading to Fedora advisable? It seems it'd
> 
> It is very easy to upgrade from Redhat 9 to the latest Fedora, but "minimal
> downtime" is the exact opposite of what you should expect. You should
> expect the upgrade to take about 10 hours (!!), and if you are upgrading
> with CDroms and not babysitting the machine all the time, expect 2 days
> of downtime...
> 
> It appears that Fedora's upgrade process somehow sucks algorithmically,
> and during all these 10 hours Fedora churns your hard disk and spins
> up and spins down the CD-ROM. It looks to me like some sort of in-memory
> caching (most modern computers have huge amounts of memory which goes to
> waste during the installation process) and one time analysis of the disk's
> contents could have gone a long way of making the upgrade process quicker.

Umm... I guess YMMV.
This week-end I upgraded my FC3 machine to FC5... Total downtime,
including LVM and software RAID rebuild (I added a forth drive) was
around 5 hours. (including back/restore cycle for ~200GB)

> 
> Not to mention that I never understood why in Fedora you cannot upgrade
> a running system (like normal "yum update" just works).

You -can-.
A. I doubt that yum upgrade from RH9 to FC4/5 will work... too many
changes.
B. It may/will work, but it's not -supported-. (Read: You're on your
own)

Gilboa


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