On the other hand, because this list includes many who are qualified to
deliver these course, you might get some pointers as to what to look for and
what to avoid.

I teach such a course, and my recommendation is to make sure there is plenty
of hands-on time. Ideally, every student should have a computer in front of
them where they can try out the concepts as they are taught, and ask questions
right away, in addition to lab time where more complex exercises are carried
out. This computer should be one on which you can try anything without fear of
breaking the installation (i.e. don't use your own laptop!) and of course it
should be the same system being taught.

I find networking concepts are very important, and I like to set up servers on
my computer and invite the students to access mine (samba, ssh, apache, cvs,
etc.). Then they learn how to set up their own and visit each other. By
learning how to set up and debug servers, a lot of other concepts are
practiced.

I also find the boot process an important topic. Knowing what is started when
is important when debugging systems.

I consider building the kernel a pretty fundamental exercise. I schedule this
before a break or at the end of the day so that we don't waste time waiting
for it to compile. If students take the laptops home, I encourage them to
experiment with removing items from the configuruation until the kernel stops
working, then trying to figure out what broke and why. (I sure learned a lot
this way)

(I'm also Michael, but a different Michael)



On Wed, 6 Sep 2006, Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote:

Hi Michael,
By nature, this list is a place where very few if any people take these types of courses. In fact, most of the list members are qualified to deliver these course themselves. So I think that your question might be better sent to one of the Hebrew Linux lists that have a wider readership and will be more likely to have participants who can answer your question.
Regards,

- yba


On Wed, 6 Sep 2006, Michael Jaffe wrote:

 Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 07:27:42 -0700 (PDT)
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 I'm considering taking John Bryce's Red Hat System Administrator (course
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 and some experience with Fedora and I'm wondering
 a) if I actually need the course
 b) if the course is any good

 Does anyone have any firsthand experience with this course - or know of
 anyone who has taken the course?

 Thanks,
 Michael
 jmichaeljaffe(at)yahoo(dot)com




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