On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 05:59:17PM +0200, aviv sher wrote: > > Well its me Aviv who started the whole mess :) i would like to thank alot to > all the really great insights... though i still have to say that almost no > one has come forward either as a CTO or a Programmer... > So I am a bit disappointed...
I am not surprised. I expect that most of the people on this list already have jobs, and those that are looking have very well defined expectations of what they want in terms of salary and benefits. Obviously you must have a budget for a programmer, and I suggest that you include the salary you expect to pay. Note that no matter what you post, you are setting your maximum skills limit, people won't quit a better paying job unless they can afford it (which is very rare). In a week you will be inundated with people who don't fit your qualifications, are not suitable for the job and so on. My estimate was at one time that the average job posting passed through my email 11 times. I've long since stopped subscribing to many of those lists just to keep an eye on the market. Some of them are just recycled on and on to get traffic to websites, and at least one employment list required agents to identify themselves, but did nothing to the ones that did not. So the same job appeared pointing to the company that posted it, and several agencies, and then a few weeks later by independents fishing (or is it phishing) for resumes. Another thing that makes a job attractive, or dissuades people is location. You should also post a description of the product. It should be detailed enough so that a prospective employee, funding source, etc can get a good idea of what you want to do, but not advanced enough so that someone can use your idea to make their own product, or in an extreme case of posting stupidity, file a patent application and freeze you out. I'm not joking about that, I've seen many postings for programmers or describing future devices where I could see the flaws in their logic, or problems in their design and if I was that kind of person (I'm not) I could beat them out to the patent office. I also want to point out that the concept is alien to most people and when I pointed it out to them, they did not even bother to thank me. :-( I'm not going to go into a discussion here about software patents but even if you think they are evil, they still exist and investors want them. Sometimes you have to file a patent application even for technology that you think would be good to be public to prevent someone beating you to it. So to summarize, you should IMHO post the following: 1. Salary you expect to pay. 2. Location. 3. A vague description of the product. > > so i am asking again if anyone out there knows someone that knows someone > that want to be part of a really interesting web 2.0 project (we pay > salaries...yep) as a programmer or any either Tech. title hew would like to > have I could recommend a job shop that would build you a web site, develop your demo and host it. There are also plenty of people on this list who could do it on a contract basis. You might also consider incorporating, hiring a marketing consultant to develop a brand name for you, setting up a "web presence", and taking advantage of Sun's new startup assistance program. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel [EMAIL PROTECTED] N3OWJ/4X1GM IL Voice: (07)-7424-1667 U.S. Voice: 1-215-821-1838 Visit my 'blog at http://geoffstechno.livejournal.com/ ================================================================= To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
