Hi Ely!
Thanks for your comment.
On Friday 06 June 2008, Ely Levy wrote:
> No offense, but it seems you just had some bad experience with an op
> on a channel.
Not just one op - several of them. They kept ping-ponging me from one place to
another, and no-one would listen to what I wanted to say ro care to.
> from that to declaring a distribution as dead there is a long distance.
I picked up the sensationalistic title on purpose - Ubuntu has gone from
pretty good to extremely bad.
> So someone misquoted you and thought you are sexist, big deal move on.
I did move on.
> Not to mention check out how many channels gentoo has (and how
> obsessed they are on staying
> on topic). or debian or actually most community developed distributions I
> know.
Well, it doesn't make Ubuntu any less worse. It's the "a problem of many - a
consolation of fools" fallacy.
> I think the comment you got for your bug report was true and polite,
It was not polite - it was laconic and annoying, and he didn't help me solve
my problems, or instruct me how to do so.
> bugzilla is not a place
> for community issues, there are forums mailing list and so on.
>
Then how do you explain Bug #1? It is a place for all sorts of bugs and
issues - community, philosophical - anything that prevents one from receiving
help, joining the fun and contributing to it.
Without a bug report open somewhere, these issues tend to persist, or even
worsen.
>
> So calm down, take a deep breath, go for a round around the block :)
I did that.
> Then I'm sure you will find the right people to address, complain to
> ubuntu ethics
> about that person or just forgive and forget there are annoying people
> in every community :)
Why not the bug tracker? And if not the bug tracker then where.
Like I said I still think Ubuntu is dying.
Regards,
Shlomi Fish
>
> Ely
>
> On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Shlomi Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > As I wrote on:
> >
> > http://community.livejournal.com/shlomif_tech/11379.html
> >
> > Ubuntu is dying as most of the bigwigs in its online community are
> > infested with ego, ping-pong legitimate complaints to oblivion, and
> > refuse to take responsibility for their own problems. The #ubunutu*
> > channels suffer from fragmentation, over-specialisation, an obseesion
> > with supposedly staying on-topic, and from ops who abuse their power. All
> > of these are very unconventional on Freenode where they are hosted.
> >
> > This is despite the fact that I heard several horror stories about the
> > fact that Ubuntu Hardy keeps hanging, and that it seems to be one of the
> > worst Ubuntu versions in recent years.
> >
> > If the Ubuntu community is unable to effectively take responsiblity for
> > their actions and do a serious soul-searching, then I fear (and hope)
> > that people will flee out of Ubuntu like mice out of a sinking ship.
> >
> > At a time like this, I'm glad I stayed with Mandriva.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Shlomi Fish
> >
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> > The bad thing about hardware is that it sometimes works and sometimes
> > doesn't. The good thing about software is that it's consistent: it always
> > does not work, and it always does not work in exactly the same way.
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