Hi Antony,
You don't need another degree to earn a reasonable salary in this
country with the skills you already apparently have. If you want a
position in research, or a titled position such as "CTO" then you will
need another degree or two.
- yba
On Thu, 28 Jul 2011, Antony Gelberg wrote:
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 14:09:16 +0300
From: Antony Gelberg <antony.gelb...@gmail.com>
To: Jonathan Ben Avraham <y...@tkos.co.il>
Cc: Linux-IL <linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il>
Subject: Re: OT: Postgraduate studies
How I bill myself is a whole other can of worms, and has been for
years. I don't have a snappy title.
I merely have a CS BSc, so technically I'm not a "computer scientist".
I've spent the last 15 years involved in software development, mainly
bespoke, and acquired good PM, business, and sysadmin(!) skills along
the way. So I don't see myself as "just" a software engineer, I'm
broader than that, and PM / BI / SA roles suit as well.
Whether this is a Good Thing in the eyes of people who read CVs is
unknown, as I have consulted for the last ten years - this is the
first time in that period that I'm actually looking around in the
market, considering offers etc.
Antony
2011/7/27 Jonathan Ben Avraham <y...@tkos.co.il>:
Hi Antony,
If you are a "computer scientist" then you better get an MSc, if not a PhD
quick.
If you were a "software engineer" then I'd say why bother.
If you are a code hacker who writes 5,000 lines a week, then don't bother
telling anyone you even have a degree - if they find out, just say you
forgot.
It depends on how you want to bill yourself.
Now as for employers, most want you to work overtime for a few years and
then they are more generous about letting you study part-time.
Regards,
- yba
On Wed, 27 Jul 2011, Antony Gelberg wrote:
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 18:53:41 +0300
From: Antony Gelberg <antony.gelb...@gmail.com>
To: Linux-IL <linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il>
Subject: OT: Postgraduate studies
(I hope this isn't so off-topic as to cause offence.)
I'm an computer scientist and oleh chadash , just finished ulpan bet
plus. 15 years experience in the field, 1.5 years in Israel, was CTO
of a startup last year, this year I've been mostly studying Hebrew.
So now it's time to polish off my CV and further my career. I've been
browsing the main Israeli high-tech websites today, as an example I
was just looking at the IBM Research Labs - very interesting indeed.
However most positions seem to require an MSc. There is a definite
cultural difference between here and the UK in terms of second degrees
- I don't have one. I'm 34 and don't want to hang about forever, but
at the same time I might consider postgraduate studies if they were
really useful career-wise. Naturally, it's also too late in the year
to apply for the upcoming academic year...
I'd be interested to hear any thoughts from the list on whether it
would be a Good Idea to consider an MSc at this point, or whether I
should settle for a role where "just" a BSc is required, and see if I
can work with future employer to study whilst I work...
Antony
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