except for one thing: the number of "manot" that one will actually get
is a big unknown - and this is not written anywhere clearly.

in addition, the ability to become a teaching assistant is not clear in
advance - and this can have a noticeable effect too.

--guy


On Tue, 2011-08-02 at 21:55 +0300, Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda wrote:
> 
> http://grad.technion.ac.il/heb/ ; Go to Melagot - Clali.
> This is getting a bit OT, IMHO, and a bit RTFM.
> 
> 
> Orna
> 
> On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Shahar Dag <d...@cs.technion.ac.il>
> wrote:
>         Hi
>         
>         If you are an internal student and a teaching assistant, then
>         (at list at the Technion) you can get a scholarship + some low
>         salary. I don't know what is the current amount
>         
>         Shahar
>         
>         ----- Original Message ----- From: "Antony Gelberg"
>         <antony.gelb...@gmail.com>
>         
>         To: "Shahar Dag" <d...@cs.technion.ac.il>
>         Cc: "Linux-IL" <linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il>
>         Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 11:27 AM
>         Subject: Re: Postgraduate studies
>         
>         
>         
>         
>         Very interesting, thank you.  How many hours per week did you
>         have to
>         devote to the MSc?  As for enjoying studies less, I hear you
>         but I
>         think I would less-enjoy having no cash-flow to pay the bills.
>         
>         I have also been considering whether a second degree in
>         management
>         e.g. MSc Management, or MBA may be more beneficial career-wise
>         than
>         another geeky MSc.  :)
>         
>         
>         2011/7/31 Shahar Dag <d...@cs.technion.ac.il>:
>                 
>                 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Antony Gelberg"
>                 <antony.gelb...@gmail.com>
>                 To: "Linux-IL" <linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il>
>                 Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 6:53 PM
>                 Subject: OT: Postgraduate studies
>                 
>                 
>                         (I hope this isn't so off-topic as to cause
>                         offence.)
>                         
>                         I'm an computer scientist and oleh chadash ,
>                         just finished ulpan bet
>                         plus. 15 years experience in the field, 1.5
>                         years in Israel, was CTO
>                         of a startup last year, this year I've been
>                         mostly studying Hebrew.
>                         
>                         So now it's time to polish off my CV and
>                         further my career. I've been
>                         browsing the main Israeli high-tech websites
>                         today, as an example I
>                         was just looking at the IBM Research Labs -
>                         very interesting indeed.
>                         However most positions seem to require an MSc.
>                         There is a definite
>                         cultural difference between here and the UK in
>                         terms of second degrees
>                         - I don't have one. I'm 34 and don't want to
>                         hang about forever, but
>                         at the same time I might consider postgraduate
>                         studies if they were
>                         really useful career-wise. Naturally, it's
>                         also too late in the year
>                         to apply for the upcoming academic year...
>                         
>                         I'd be interested to hear any thoughts from
>                         the list on whether it
>                         would be a Good Idea to consider an MSc at
>                         this point, or whether I
>                         should settle for a role where "just" a BSc is
>                         required, and see if I
>                         can work with future employer to study whilst
>                         I work...
>                         
>                         Antony
>                 
>                 Hello Antony
>                 
>                 
>                 
>                 
>                 I have a first degree in computer engineering from the
>                 Technion (faculty:
>                 electrical eng.). After several years of working as
>                 computer engineer, I
>                 also got an Msc. from the Technion. My Msc is in
>                 artificial intelligence and
>                 I did it as external student again in electrical eng.
>                 since (at the time)
>                 they were more liberal regarding external students.
>                 The only difference from
>                 learning in computer science is that I had to take an
>                 advanced course in
>                 mathematics. Learning in parallel to full time job is
>                 not easy, but I think
>                 that the main disadvantage is that you don't have time
>                 to enjoy your study.
>                 You do only the bare minimum and you don't have time
>                 for extra courses,
>                 seminars and special lectures.
>                 
>                 When I look back, I think that a professional MSc. was
>                 a mistake (I never
>                 felt it helped me at work, but who knows), I should
>                 instead do a second
>                 degree in management.
>                 
>                 
>                 
>                 I hope that I gave you some helpful hints
>                 
>                 Shahar
>                 
>                 
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