[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Good people cost more. And that competence is the reason why they
> > get it too.
> uhmmmm. i would add presentation skills and negotiation skills to
> supplement competence.

That could be part of 'competence' itself. But yet, if it came to making
a choice, I would hire a geek who could not give a powerpoint
presentation well to a person who could only present well, to administer
my webserver.

> appears to be a random case blown out of proportion.

You were not there on the list when it happened. You should have seen
the fun we had here.

> being generalised
> to put the entire lot in bad light. 

I have nothing against anyone. But it seems that the course material of
many such 'off the wall' institutes is slowly degrading in organization,
presentation and contents in a bid to include the buzzwords. Personal
observations. NIIT started in a better way, about Red Hat Linux, than
where they are today. No personal/commercial interests. It is always
good to do a course compared to starting off on your own when it is
Linux/Unix/Or anything else having a steep learning curve.

> please cool down and give it a
> thought. 

Give 'what' a thought?

> might be newbie to cc/ c++.

I can't believe the nerve on you? Are you the same guy? [wink].
I have helped many such 'newbies' in IIT and on the list with the
silliest
questions. As for me, I never run out of newbie questions myself. I have 
a long way to go. And I ask silly questions at times. Everyone does.

But then I do not claim to be a faculty anywhere, responsible for
teaching
Linux to students against their money [did I mention the amount?], most
of whom do not know anything about it beforehand and are under pressure
of unemployment and looking for quality education in a growing field. I
can not endorse it, far from being part of that process. 

> such unqualified criticisms might scare away other newbies from asking
> innocent queries, thinking they might get mocked or scorned like above.

No admitting newbie is thrashed here, or on any other decent list. We do
help. Repeatedly, about things like SiS cards and i810 mobos, inspite of
these things having been disucussed at length and stored in archieves
for all to see. You might want to look at the mail which actually
started this
faculty-on-Linux thrashing. It would be somewhere in the archieves.

> no offense dear.
Same here.

> -vulcan
-Waters.

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