On Fri, Oct 19, 2001 at 05:15:15AM +0530, mukund wrote:
> Great idea.
> I can "donate" some of my scripts. I have already developed 
> some scripts under perl  and embperl  (web based)  for user 
> management. The  only  important  thing  is to bundle them, 
> with a nice web based interface. The scripts should be cen-
> tered around problem faced on this list by newbies.

Its nice to see a positive response. I suppose, there  cannot
be a single method because of the distro specific quirks. Iam
quite okay at HTML, bash etc. though my perl competence is at
best average ... but can certainly chip in  with bundling and
cgi-bin work.

This kind of thing would need a  core  development  group and
probably help from all for testing in different distros ...

If we get more help, lets do it ... we'll work out the modal-
ities, as we proceed.
 
> Its really high time this list did constructive work, apart 
> from distro war. Unfortunately  I have seen premature death 
> of many project on this list in last 3 years.

Distro wars are on all lists ... I have not been on this list
for long (about 6 months at most) ... at least the LOST proj-
ect is still thriving ... and almost a dozen  people  on this
list are still actively involved ...

> But surely things can be changed.

It WILL change ... a time comes for all when "What  you  can
do for Linux" takes  precedence over "What  Linux can do for 
you" ... only problem is most experienced lot  are busy, and
naturally so ... but ALL will reach that level some time.

Bish

> Regards,
> Mukund Deshmukh
> Beta Computronics Pvt. Ltd.
> Web site - http://betacomp.com
> 
> 
> >
> >There is still a major issue here which remains unresolved. All
> >newbies need to be given a jumpstart ... unlike Win  from where
> >most people migrate from, Linux definitely has a fair amount of
> >"sysadmining" effort, even for a single user box.
> >
> >To suggest to people the "proper" way of doing such  things the
> >need for requisite info in a consise form needs to be available
> >in some form somewhere ... for newcomers to be pointed to.
> >
> >Many of us on the list have been doing things  manually. Some a
> >bit better off because they have also tasted Linuxconf ( surely
> >having learnt from that experience).
> >
> >I have just about "seen" linuxconf. I had RH-5.2  installed for
> >a short while in 1999, and went back to Slack and deb. What put
> >me off with Linuxconf was the amount of things it meddled with,
> >which Slack guys would hate.  I promptly did a rpm -e (IIRC) on
> >it ... and went on with my Slack admin habits in RH !!
> >
> >However, what I forget were the things it dealt with in a chro-
> >nological order. Surely, as a group we can chip in our bits and
> >have the info at one place provided, the  full  Linuxconf menus
> >are known. There has never been Linuxconf on Slack, and  I just
> >cant recollect the whole list which I probably  saw a few times
> >only two years ago.
> >
> >If there is sufficient response, why don't we put our own bits
> >together and make a viable substitute ? We need:
> >
> >a) List of all things done by Linuxconf
> >b) For most things short docs. A few, like the one below can be
> >   covered in LOST snippets itself.
> >c) Few things like sendmail, ppp or wvdial may need scripts ...
> >   which may be available with many of us, or we can write such
> >   things de novo ...
> >d) A page to put them all up (least of the bothers)
> >
> >Though I don't know Linuxconf itself, but surely can contribute
> >in several areas ...
> >
> >Are there more voices for the cause ... as an LIH venture ?
> >
> >Bish

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