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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: msn messenger not working behind a squid proxy (Shridhar Daithankar)
   2. [OT]Spped of processors in future [was Re: [LIH] msn messenger not
working behind a squid proxy] (Shridhar Daithankar)
   3. Re: Help on source codes. (Philip S Tellis)
   4. Setting default OS in GRUB (N S Srikanth)
   5. Re: Setting default OS in GRUB (Raghavendra Bhat)
   6. Home networking. (Chandan Vijay)
   7. Re: [changed] Webserver and url mangling (Mithun Bhattacharya)
   8. Re: [changed] Webserver and url mangling (Philip S Tellis)
   9. Re: Sending mail with attachment (USM Bish)
  10. Re: Database for a neurologist (USM Bish)
  11. Re: Reg:1024 cylinder limit (USM Bish)
  12. Re: Re-defining partitions (USM Bish)
  13. Re: Reg:Renaming a mounted partition (USM Bish)
  14. can't put interface in promiscuous mode ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  15. Re: [OT] yahoo mail (Sridhar M.A.)
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On 15 Jan 2002 at 17:53, Raja R wrote:
> SN messenger is not working behind a squid proxy on linux 6.2 . The access
> to internet is user authentication
> based and not IP based.

I think the issue is not squid but firewall. Find on what port MSN
messenger is 
communicating and let that port slip thr. firewall..

HTH

 Shridhar

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On 15 Jan 2002 at 17:59, Kingsly John wrote:
> And anyways as Philip pointed out... Linux 6.2 won't be out for a long
> time to come.. and none of us on the list are time travellers so we are
> not familiar with it!! But I'm guess that it'll probably be capable of
> driving a 1Thz processor !! ;-)

Tha'ts pretty darn slow and poor on imagination. Yesterday I was watching 
StarTrek Voyager. When a computer is asked(i.e. by voice command) for it's 
specification, it gives some 512 trillion calculation per nanosecond. Now
that 
would be far faster than 1THz.. 

(OK unless it's quantum computer for which Hz won't matter any more. and KHz 
quantum computer will beat today's GHz ones. And remember that will be analog 
frequency..)

 Shridhar

Frustrated from fixing hard coded paths in makefiles.. So searching for some 
life...

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Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 18:14:45 +0530 (IST)
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On Tue, 15 Jan 2002, Kingsly John wrote:

> It's the webserver that adds the extra / ... and that is why Amar
> said it's better to add the trailing / (as it'll save one extra

Not in this case.  See my other post.

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Hi listers,
                 I installed Caldera Linux(PCQ CD) in a friend's PC today.In
that I have a doubt.

In LILO we can set default booting OS by the command "lilo -D (dos or
Linux)" and then running "lilo -v".
How to do the same thing in GRUB?
man grub did not show up any such options.
Can listers point out what to do in GRUB?

N S Srikanth
Trivandrum




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Srikanth wrote:

> How to do the same thing in GRUB ?

Add a line  'default x' in /boot/grub/menu.lst towards  the beginning of
the file  before the title sections start;  where x is the  order of the
title sections.  0 for the first section, 1 for the second and so on. 

I have 'default 1' and 'fallback 3' in my menu.lst file.   Read the info
files for grub, particularly the "menu specific commands".  Default and
fallback are listed therein.

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2002.01.13 - 11:52 IST 

Hello Wise guys !

I need help regarding setting up a home network. Wish to do it to do
some network programming on *nix.

I have two computers, one of them is a pentium 150MHz system, and
another PIII 1GHz system. RH Linux 6.2 is already installed on the 1st
system.

What i wish to know is how to create a simple network with newer
machine as Linux Server and older pentium as a node ( with Harddisk )
I am a little tight on my budget, so what is the bare minimum hardware
that i must have and how to setup, i.e. cable connectivity type,
ethernet adapter, etc.

Thanks in advance. Web links would also be appreciated.
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> When IIS receives a request for a directory, but without the trailing 
> slash, and if there is no ambiguity (which is generally the case), then 
> it sends the directory.



Well looks like even IIS is doing the redirect. The funny thing is it 
redirects to a directory without a trailing slash causing another 
redirect to another URL with a slash.



Mithun


-------------------------------
telnet> open www.microsoft.com 80
Trying 207.46.197.113...
Connected to www.microsoft.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
GET /download HTTP/1.0

HTTP/1.1 302 Object Moved
Location: http://CPMSFTWBW35/download/
Server: Microsoft-IIS/5.0
Content-Type: text/html
Content-Length: 151

<head><title>Document Moved</title></head>
<body><h1>Object Moved</h1>This document may be found <a 
HREF="http://CPMSFTWBW35/download/";>here</a></body>Connection closed by 
foreign host.
-------------------------------
telnet> open www.microsoft.com 80
Trying 207.46.197.102...
Connected to www.microsoft.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
GET /download/ HTTP/1.0

HTTP/1.1 302 Object moved
Server: Microsoft-IIS/5.0
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 13:35:30 GMT
P3P: CP='ALL IND DSP COR ADM CONo CUR CUSo IVAo IVDo PSA PSD TAI TELo 
OUR SAMo CNT COM INT NAV ONL PHY PRE PUR UNI'
Location: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads
Connection: Keep-Alive
Content-Length: 155
Content-Type: text/html
Cache-control: private

<head><title>Object moved</title></head>
<body><h1>Object Moved</h1>This object may be found <a 
HREF="http://www.microsoft.com/downloads";>here</a>.</body>
-------------------------------
telnet> open www.microsoft.com 80
Trying 207.46.197.101...
Connected to www.microsoft.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
GET /downloads HTTP/1.0

HTTP/1.1 302 Object Moved
Location: http://cpmsftwbw17/downloads/
Server: Microsoft-IIS/5.0
Content-Type: text/html
Content-Length: 152

<head><title>Document Moved</title></head>
<body><h1>Object Moved</h1>This document may be found <a 
HREF="http://cpmsftwbw17/downloads/";>here</a></body>Connection closed by 
foreign host.
-------------------------------


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Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 19:52:58 +0530 (IST)
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On Tue, 15 Jan 2002, Mithun Bhattacharya wrote:

> Well looks like even IIS is doing the redirect. The funny thing is it 
> redirects to a directory without a trailing slash causing another 
> redirect to another URL with a slash.

They are doing a 302 - Moved temporarily, not a 301 - moved permanently.  
This is so because microsoft has multiple servers that they are probably 
using for load sharing or something like that.

> telnet> open www.microsoft.com 80
> Trying 207.46.197.113...
> Connected to www.microsoft.com.
> Escape character is '^]'.
> GET /download HTTP/1.0
> 
> HTTP/1.1 302 Object Moved
> Location: http://CPMSFTWBW35/download/
> Server: Microsoft-IIS/5.0
> Content-Type: text/html
> Content-Length: 151
> 

after this, you should pretend to be a browser, and do this:

telnet www.microsoft.com 80
GET http://CPMSFTWBW35/download/ HTTP/1.0

of course, you'll just go on and on.

One major bug here, is that they respond to a HTTP/1.0 request with a 
HTTP/1.1 response.  This is one of the methods used to detect whether a 
server is IIS or not - assuming its server string has been changed.

Anyway, this is drifting way off topic

Philip

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Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 17:54:58 +0530
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On Mon, Jan 14, 2002 at 09:41:27PM -0800, Lokesh Bhog wrote:
> 
> I am looking for a shell script or command that can be
> used to send mail along with attachment.
> I know mail user1 < filename
>

o If mutt is installed see LOST #225 below
o if nmh installed; sendfiles

Bish

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On Mon, Jan 14, 2002 at 01:32:10PM +0530, Shridhar Daithankar wrote:
> On 12 Jan 2002 at 6:20, USM Bish wrote:
> > If your data is critical leave the well alone. Have a second
> > box with Linux on it, get comfortable with it,  install some
> > SQL (I am no expert here. Know nothing except for postgres).
> > If your transactions are voluminous, may even  consider some
> > thing like oracle (of which I know nothing), and then trans-
> > fer the data later ....
> 
> Postgres is sufficient for most (Read 99.99%) of  the task. If 
> you are switching away from postgres  due to performance prob-
> lem, I would like to have a look at it.  May  be  I will learn 
> something..;-)
> 

Not for the life of me ... that's  about  all  I  know and in no
position to learn something new. postgres meets 100% of my needs
but don't know, I gather that Oracle is sturdier stuff, not that
I want to even try ... You need to know both to compare ... I do
not know Oracle at all ! Only that, from a M$ platform, I am gi-
ven to understand that Oracle has the regular import stuff ...

Bish

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On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 12:10:05AM -0500, chandrasekar wrote:
> 
> I have a 40 GB hard disk. I have installed windows (XP) and 
> linux on my system. I have  windows  and  its  applications 
> installed upto 13GB. So I cudnot have the boot partition of 
> linux within the 1024 limit. Now I have to boot to my linux 
> thro a boot disk. Is there  anyway we can overcome this for
> large hard disk.
> 
---end quoted text---

M$ is rather posessive about the MBR. Dual  booting  through
a muti-menu by modifying "boot.ini" may be worth considering
and in NT-type Wins (viz NT/ 2k/ XP) would not pose any pro-
blem with Win's requirements. For the method, you  may  like
to have a look at: http://geocities.com/usmbish/hdi.html.

Bish


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On Mon, Jan 14, 2002 at 01:43:21PM +0530, Shridhar Daithankar wrote:
> On 12 Jan 2002 at 13:17, USM Bish wrote:
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> I thought every partition has a bootable record. Be it primary 
> or extended.
>

Every PRIMARY partition has a boot record and space for data. An
EXTENDED partition has a boot record, but the  data  is  kept in
the logicals under it. An IDE drive takes only ONE extended par-
tition, but unlimited logicals. Assume  your  extended partition
is hda4, the data would be written to hda5 (the default logical)
If you make hda6 to hdaN, the boot record would still be of hda4
Suppose you install QNX or freebsd on hda8, the  boot  record is
going to be written to the boot record of the extended, and  not
of hda8 (since logicals under an extended do not have a boot re-
cord). As a  consequence any  pre-existing bootable record  will
be overwritten.

Bish


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Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 18:46:34 +0530
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On Mon, Jan 14, 2002 at 04:22:26PM +0530, Binand Raj S. wrote:
> On Monday 14 January 2002 16:22 pm, Kingsly John wrote:
> > The labeling is done automagically by redhat .. and the user 
> > doesn't have a say in that! ..  end result  will be that the 
> > second install of redhat  will  be not be  usable.  as it'll 
> > still mount the partitions from the first install.
> 
> You can always change the labels using the e2label utility.
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Gosh Binand, how many ways are there to skin a cat ? I have been
using "tune2fs -L" all along for this ! Never even  noticed this
e2label thing ! Its very much there in Slack as well. You  learn
new things every day on lists ;-)

Making a LOST out of this ....

Bish


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Hi,

        I want to monitor some n/w traffic ( don't ask me why ;-), using
tcpdump. I am unable to throw my interface into promiscuous mode.

I googled a lot, some body told me to do a tcpdump -p ( opp. to what doc
says), but doesnot work.

I am on RH 7.1 (2.4.2-2), tcpdump is 3.4, libpcap is 0.4

Do I have to set some kernel option and rebuild kernel ?
Can anybody please help me with this ?

regards
srp


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On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 05:35:02PM +0530, Philip S Tellis wrote:
   > On Tue, 15 Jan 2002, Shridhar Daithankar wrote:
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   > > But I wonder I haven't received any such mail from yahoo. I have 4
   > > active accounts with yahoo..
   > 
   > only if you access your yahoo account through a pop3 client
   > 
I too have one. But, have not received any messages so far.

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