On 13 Mar 2002 at 16:56, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:

> Right again - but then the registry (and policies) make life easier.  99.99%

I differ. It's a bloated stuff and nothing can replace self discipline on 
developers part to develop uniformly and sanely(I think Linus made similar 
arguments while rejecting patches for non-executable stack). No amount of tools 
would cure the situation if developers are dumb-ass to code ad-hoc.

And I believe all COM and OCX stuff is crap. Compile some files and put .os. 
Link them in library and end of story. Why use registry to locate a file 
required? 

Unix model of libraries is vastly flexible compared to dlls. If windows has to 
be equally flexible that would beat every last drop out of microsoft. They know 
this and that's why came up with crappy ideas like two versions of a same 
library can not be loaded simaltaneously..

My another belief is easy to use nature of VB has led to extremely poor 
designed app. I have seen many apps. where not a single form is reused or 
inherited. And that becomes royal PITA down the line if product survives few 
years in time and few revisions of Windows/VB

> of the doze hassles are because of idiot users installing whatever piece of
> junk they feel like on their machines ... NT saves a lot of hassle for an
> admin by requiring administrator access ;)

Yaa and I work all the time as administrator. Why? because I don't have an 
effective su. I hate to do that. Call that workstation. No wonder nimda and 
core red had bright days out here. 3 days all out because of that..

BTW can anybody tell me how can I login simaltaneously on XP box. For a starter 
one additional login would do. Then I will keep running two logins. One for 
admin and one for myself.

Call that multitasking. Microsoft hasn't woken up to needs of developers and it 
has led a generation of developers to believe that it's the best of to work. 
Not even multiple desktops..and BTW GNU Deskwin is not stable under XP.

> However, it is getting better.  Not quite there as a workstation, but better.
> WinXP Professional is actually quite decent, happen you have a heavily
> specced computer ;)

Lets' check out. At this moment I have followig programs running.

1)3 explorrers.
2)A dos command prompt
3)MSDEV with no file open
4)Pegasus
5)3 puttys
6)pfe with 2 <1KB files open.
7)ICQ/MSN/Yahoo messengers.

And memory usage is 160MB. Now 512MB machine to edit few text files and for 
couple of shells and mails, is not my idea of good OS. KDE is 100 times better 
than this on my home 128MB machine and more programs running.

> ps - Am I drunk or something?  supporting and advocating NT like this .. ;)

No. you are  perfectly conscious because you are advocating facts. Unless you 
admit mistakes and facts, you can't progress, is what I am been told..

But for a change I change the subject. I hope more people will get attracted 
that way and read this..:-)

 Shridhar

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