Hi Viresh,
On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 11:57:28AM +0200, Stephan Gerhold wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 12:05:11PM +0530, Viresh Kumar wrote:
> > On 27-08-20, 13:44, Stephan Gerhold wrote:
> > > Hmm. Actually I was using this parameter for initial testing, and forced
> > > on the power domains from the qcom-cpufreq-nvmem driver. For my v1 patch
> > > I wanted to enable the power domains in dev_pm_opp_set_rate(), so there
> > > using the virt_devs parameter was not possible.
> >
> > Right, as we really do not want to enable it there and leave it for
> > the real consumers to handle.
> >
> > > On the other hand, creating the device links would be possible from the
> > > platform driver by using the parameter.
> >
> > Right.
> >
> > > > And so I think again if this patch should be picked instead of letting
> > > > the platform handle this ?
> > >
> > > It seems like originally the motivation for the parameter was that
> > > cpufreq consumers do *not* need to power on the power domains:
> > >
> > > Commit 17a8f868ae3e ("opp: Return genpd virtual devices from
> > > dev_pm_opp_attach_genpd()"):
> > > "The cpufreq drivers don't need to do runtime PM operations on
> > > the virtual devices returned by dev_pm_domain_attach_by_name() and so
> > > the virtual devices weren't shared with the callers of
> > > dev_pm_opp_attach_genpd() earlier.
> > >
> > > But the IO device drivers would want to do that. This patch updates
> > > the prototype of dev_pm_opp_attach_genpd() to accept another argument
> > > to return the pointer to the array of genpd virtual devices."
> >
> > Not just that I believe. There were also arguments that only the real
> > consumer knows how to handle multiple power domains. For example for a
> > USB or Camera module which can work in multiple modes, we may want to
> > enable only one power domain in say slow mode and another power domain
> > in fast mode. And so these kind of complex behavior/choices better be
> > left for the end consumer and not try to handle this generically in
> > the OPP core.
> >
> [...]
>
> It seems to me that there is more work needed to make such a use case
> really work, but it's hard to speculate without a real example.
>
So it seems like we have a real example now. :)
As mentioned in my other mail [1] it turns out I actually have such a
use case. I briefly explained it in [2], basically the clock that
provides higher CPU frequencies has some voltage requirements that
should be voted for using a power domain.
The clock that provides the lower CPU frequencies has no such
requirement, so I need to scale (and power on) a power domain only for
some of the OPPs.
[1]: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-pm/20200831154938.ga33...@gerhold.net/
[2]: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-arm-msm/20200910162610.ga7...@gerhold.net/
So I think it would be good to discuss this use case first before we
decide on this patch (how to enable power domains managed by the OPP
core). I think there are two problems that need to be solved:
1. How can we drop our performance state votes for some of the OPPs?
I explained that problem earlier already:
>
> I was thinking about something like that, but can you actually drop
> your performance state vote for one of the power domains using
> "required-opps"?
>
> At the moment it does not seem possible. I tried adding a special OPP
> using opp-level = <0> to reference that from required-opps, but the OPP
> core does not allow this:
>
> vddcx: Not all nodes have performance state set (7: 6)
> vddcx: Failed to add OPP table for index 0: -2
>
> So the "virt_devs" parameter would allow you to disable the power
> domain, but not to drop your performance state vote (you could only vote
> for the lowest OPP, not 0...)
Not sure if it makes sense but I think somehow allowing the additional
opp-level = <0> would be a simple solution. For example:
rpmpd: power-controller {
rpmpd_opp_table: opp-table {
compatible = "operating-points-v2";
/*
* This one can be referenced to drop the performance state
* vote within required-opps.
*/
rpmpd_opp_none: opp0 {
opp-level = <0>;
};
rpmpd_opp_retention: opp1 {
opp-level = <1>;
};
/* ... */
};
};
cpu_opp_table: cpu-opp-table {
compatible = "operating-points-v2";
opp-shared;
/* Power domain is only needed for frequencies >= 998 MHz */
opp-200000000 {
opp-hz = /bits/ 64 <200000000>;
required-opps = <&rpmpd_opp_none>; /* = drop perf state
*/
};
opp-998400000 {
opp-hz = /bits/ 64 <998400000>;
required-opps = <&rpmpd_opp_svs_soc>;
};
opp-1209600000 {
opp-hz = /bits/ 64 <1209600000>;
required-opps = <&rpmpd_opp_nominal>;
};
};
2. Where/when to enable the power domains: I need to enable the power
domain whenever I have a vote for a performance state. In the example
above the power domain should get enabled for >= 998 MHz and disabled
otherwise.
At least for the CPUFreq case the "virt_devs" parameter does not
really help in this case...
dev_pm_opp_set_rate() is called within cpufreq-dt which is supposed
to be generic. So I can't enable the power domains myself from there.
Even if I made a custom cpufreq driver that has control over the
dev_pm_opp_set_rate() call - I don't really know exactly in the
driver for which frequencies a power domain is needed.
On the other hand, the OPP core does have that information.
This brings me back to my PATCH v1 (where I used runtime PM functions
instead of device links). If I modify it to enable the power domain
whenever we have a performance state vote > 0 when setting an OPP,
it would do exactly what I need...
I don't think it makes sense to do performance state votes without
enabling a power domain, so this approach sounds good to me...
What do you think?
Thanks!
Stephan
