* Peter Zijlstra: > Our Documentation/memory-barriers.txt has a Control Dependencies section > (which I shall not replicate here for brevity) which lists a number of > caveats. But in general the work-around we use is: > > x = READ_ONCE(*foo); > if (x > 42) > WRITE_ONCE(*bar, 1); > > Where READ/WRITE_ONCE() cast the variable volatile. The volatile > qualifier dissuades the compiler from assuming it knows things and we > then hope it will indeed emit the branch like we'd expect. > > > Now, hoping the compiler generates correct code is clearly not ideal and > very dangerous indeed. Which is why my question to the compiler folks > assembled here is: > > Can we get a C language extention for this?
For what exactly? Do you want a compiler that never simplifies conditional expressions (like some people want compilers that never re-associate floating point operations)? With a bit of effort, we could prototype such a compiler and run benchmarks against a kernel that was built using it. But I'm not sure if that's a good use of resources. > And while we have a fair number (and growing) existing users of this in > the kernel, I'd not be adverse to having to annotate them. But not using READ_ONCE and WRITE_ONCE? I think in GCC, they are called __atomic_load_n(foo, __ATOMIC_RELAXED) and __atomic_store_n(foo, __ATOMIC_RELAXED). GCC can't optimize relaxed MO loads and stores because the C memory model is defective and does not actually guarantee the absence of out-of-thin-air values (a property it was supposed to have). Obviously, actual implementations want to provide this guarantee. So it's really impossible right now to argue about this in any formal way and determine the validity of optimizations (which is why there are none, hopefully). In standard C, there is <stdatomic.h>, but its relaxed MO loads and stores can of course be optimized, so you'll need a compiler extension here. A different way of annotating this would be a variant of _Atomic where plain accesses have relaxed MO, not seq-cst MO. Thanks, Florian -- Red Hat GmbH, https://de.redhat.com/ , Registered seat: Grasbrunn, Commercial register: Amtsgericht Muenchen, HRB 153243, Managing Directors: Charles Cachera, Brian Klemm, Laurie Krebs, Michael O'Neill
