Hi Zhijian,

On 8/26/2025 11:30 PM, Zhijian Li (Fujitsu) wrote:
All,


I have confirmed that in the !CXL_REGION configuration, the same environment 
may fail to fall back to hmem.(Your new patch cannot resolve this issue)

In my environment:
- There are two CXL memory devices corresponding to:
    ```
    5d0000000-6cffffff : CXL Window 0
    6d0000000-7cffffff : CXL Window 1
    ```
- E820 table contains a 'soft reserved' entry:
    ```
    [    0.000000] BIOS-e820: [mem 0x00000005d0000000-0x00000007cfffffff] soft 
reserved
    ```

However, since my ACPI SRAT doesn't describe the CXL memory devices (the 
point), `acpi/hmat.c` won't allocate memory targets for them. This prevents the 
call chain:
```c
hmat_register_target_devices() // for each SRAT-described target
    -> hmem_register_resource()
      -> insert entry into "HMEM devices" resource
```

Therefore, for successful fallback to hmem in this environment: `dax_hmem.ko` 
and `kmem.ko` must request resources BEFORE `cxl_acpi.ko` inserts 'CXL Window X'

However the kernel cannot guarantee this initialization order.

When cxl_acpi runs before dax_kmem/kmem:
```
(built-in)                 CXL_REGION=n
driver/dax/hmem/device.c  cxl_acpi.ko      dax_hmem.ko               kmem.ko

(1) Add entry '15d0000000-7cfffffff'
                                           (2) Traverse "HMEM devices"
                                               Insert to iomem:
                                               5d0000000-7cffffff : Soft 
Reserved

                       (3) Insert CXL Window 0/1
                           /proc/iomem shows:
                           5d0000000-7cffffff : Soft Reserved
                             5d0000000-6cffffff : CXL Window 0
                             6d0000000-7cffffff : CXL Window 1

                                          (4) Create dax device
                                                                  (5) 
request_mem_region() fails
                                                                    for 
5d0000000-7cffffff
                                                                    Reason: 
Children of 'Soft Reserved'
                                                                    (CXL 
Windows 0/1) don't cover full range
```


Thanks for confirming the failure point. I was thinking of two possible ways forward here, and I would like to get feedback from others:

[1] Teach dax_hmem to split when the parent claim fails:
If __request_region() fails for the top-level Soft Reserved range because IORES_DESC_CXL children already exist, dax_hmem could iterate those windows and register each one individually. The downside is that it adds some complexity and feels a bit like papering over the fact that CXL should eventually own all of this memory. As Dan mentioned, the long-term plan is for Linux to not need the soft-reserve fallback at all, and simply ignore Soft Reserve for CXL Windows because the CXL subsystem will handle it.

[2] Always unconditionally load CXL early..
Call request_module("cxl_acpi"); request_module("cxl_pci"); from dax_hmem_init() (without the IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_DEV_DAX_CXL) guard). If those are y/m, they’ll be present; if n, it’s a no-op. Then in hmem_register_device() drop the IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_DEV_DAX_CXL) gate and do:

if (region_intersects(res->start, resource_size(res),
                      IORESOURCE_MEM, IORES_DESC_CXL) !=REGION_DISJOINT)
        /* defer to CXL */;

and defer to CXL if windows are present. This makes Soft Reserved unavailable once CXL Windows have been discovered, even if CXL_REGION is disabled. That aligns better with the idea that “CXL should win” whenever a window is visible (This also needs to be considered alongside patch 6/6 in my series.)

With CXL_REGION=n there would be no devdax and no kmem for that range; proc/iomem would show only the windows something like below

850000000-284fffffff : CXL Window 0
2850000000-484fffffff : CXL Window 1
4850000000-684fffffff : CXL Window 2

That means the memory is left unclaimed/unavailable.. (no System RAM, no /dev/dax). Is that acceptable when CXL_REGION is disabled?

Thanks
Smita
---------------------
In my another environment where ACPI SRAT has separate entries per CXL device:
1. `acpi/hmat.c` inserts two entries into "HMEM devices":
     - 5d0000000-6cffffff
     - 6d0000000-7cffffff

2. Regardless of module order, dax/kmem requests per-device resources, 
resulting in:
     ```
     5d0000000-7cffffff : Soft Reserved
         5d0000000-6cffffff : CXL Window 0
             5d0000000-6cffffff : dax0.0
                 5d0000000-6cffffff : System RAM (kmem)
         6d0000000-7cffffff : CXL Window 1
             6d0000000-7cffffff : dax1.0
                 6d0000000-7cffffff : System RAM (kmem)
     ```

Thanks,
Zhijian


On 25/08/2025 15:50, Li Zhijian wrote:


On 22/08/2025 11:56, Koralahalli Channabasappa, Smita wrote:


       ```

3. When CXL_REGION is disabled, there is a failure to fallback to dax_hmem, in 
which case only CXL Window X is visible.

Haven't tested !CXL_REGION yet.

When CXL_REGION is disabled, DEV_DAX_CXL will also be disabled. So dax_hmem 
should handle it.

Yes, falling back to dax_hmem/kmem is the result we expect.
I haven't figured out the root cause of the issue yet, but I can tell you that 
in my QEMU environment,
there is currently a certain probability that it cannot fall back to 
dax_hmem/kmem.

Upon its failure, I observed the following warnings and errors (with my local 
fixup kernel).
[   12.203254] kmem dax0.0: mapping0: 0x5d0000000-0x7cfffffff could not reserve 
region
[   12.203437] kmem dax0.0: probe with driver kmem failed with error -16



I was able to fallback to dax_hmem. But let me know if I'm missing something.

config DEV_DAX_CXL
          tristate "CXL DAX: direct access to CXL RAM regions"
          depends on CXL_BUS && CXL_REGION && DEV_DAX
..


       On failure:
       ```
       100000000-27ffffff : System RAM
       5c0001128-5c00011b7 : port1
       5c0011128-5c00111b7 : port2
       5d0000000-6cffffff : CXL Window 0
       6d0000000-7cffffff : CXL Window 1
       7000000000-700000ffff : PCI Bus 0000:0c
         7000000000-700000ffff : 0000:0c:00.0
           7000001080-70000010d7 : mem1
       ```

       On success:
       ```
       5d0000000-7cffffff : dax0.0
         5d0000000-7cffffff : System RAM (kmem)
           5d0000000-6cffffff : CXL Window 0
           6d0000000-7cffffff : CXL Window 1
       ```


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