On 29/08/2025 07:21, Koralahalli Channabasappa, Smita wrote:
> Hi Zhijian,
> 
> On 8/26/2025 11:30 PM, Zhijian Li (Fujitsu) wrote:
>> All,
>>
>>
>> I have confirmed that in the !CXL_REGION configuration, the same environment 
>> may fail to fall back to hmem.(Your new patch cannot resolve this issue)
>>
>> In my environment:
>> - There are two CXL memory devices corresponding to:
>>     ```
>>     5d0000000-6cffffff : CXL Window 0
>>     6d0000000-7cffffff : CXL Window 1
>>     ```
>> - E820 table contains a 'soft reserved' entry:
>>     ```
>>     [    0.000000] BIOS-e820: [mem 0x00000005d0000000-0x00000007cfffffff] 
>> soft reserved
>>     ```
>>
>> However, since my ACPI SRAT doesn't describe the CXL memory devices (the 
>> point), `acpi/hmat.c` won't allocate memory targets for them. This prevents 
>> the call chain:
>> ```c
>> hmat_register_target_devices() // for each SRAT-described target
>>     -> hmem_register_resource()
>>       -> insert entry into "HMEM devices" resource
>> ```
>>
>> Therefore, for successful fallback to hmem in this environment: 
>> `dax_hmem.ko` and `kmem.ko` must request resources BEFORE `cxl_acpi.ko` 
>> inserts 'CXL Window X'
>>
>> However the kernel cannot guarantee this initialization order.
>>
>> When cxl_acpi runs before dax_kmem/kmem:
>> ```
>> (built-in)                 CXL_REGION=n
>> driver/dax/hmem/device.c  cxl_acpi.ko      dax_hmem.ko               kmem.ko
>>
>> (1) Add entry '15d0000000-7cfffffff'
>>                                            (2) Traverse "HMEM devices"
>>                                                Insert to iomem:
>>                                                5d0000000-7cffffff : Soft 
>> Reserved
>>
>>                        (3) Insert CXL Window 0/1
>>                            /proc/iomem shows:
>>                            5d0000000-7cffffff : Soft Reserved
>>                              5d0000000-6cffffff : CXL Window 0
>>                              6d0000000-7cffffff : CXL Window 1
>>
>>                                           (4) Create dax device
>>                                                                   (5) 
>> request_mem_region() fails
>>                                                                     for 
>> 5d0000000-7cffffff
>>                                                                     Reason: 
>> Children of 'Soft Reserved'
>>                                                                     (CXL 
>> Windows 0/1) don't cover full range
>> ```
>>
> 
> Thanks for confirming the failure point. I was thinking of two possible ways 
> forward here, and I would like to get feedback from others:
> 
> [1] Teach dax_hmem to split when the parent claim fails:
> If __request_region() fails for the top-level Soft Reserved range because 
> IORES_DESC_CXL children already exist, dax_hmem could iterate those windows 
> and register each one individually. The downside is that it adds some 
> complexity and feels a bit like papering over the fact that CXL should 
> eventually own all of this memory. 

I examined below change to ensure kmem runs first, it seemed to work.

  static int __init cxl_acpi_init(void)
  {
+       if (!IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_DEV_DAX_CXL) && IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_DEV_DAX_KMEM)) 
{
+               /* fall back to dax_hmem,kmem */
+               request_module("kmem");
+       }
         return platform_driver_register(&cxl_acpi_driver);
  }


> As Dan mentioned, the long-term plan is for Linux to not need the 
> soft-reserve fallback at all, and simply ignore Soft Reserve for CXL Windows 
> because the CXL subsystem will handle it.

The current CXL_REGION kconfig states:
   Otherwise, platform-firmware managed CXL is enabled by being placed in the 
system address map and does not need a driver.

I think this implies that a fallback to dax_hmem/kmem is still required for 
such cases.

Of course, I personally agree with this 'long-term plan'.



> 
> [2] Always unconditionally load CXL early..
> Call request_module("cxl_acpi"); request_module("cxl_pci"); from 
> dax_hmem_init() (without the IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_DEV_DAX_CXL) guard). If those 
> are y/m, they’ll be present; if n, it’s a no-op. Then in 
> hmem_register_device() drop the IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_DEV_DAX_CXL) gate and do:
> 
> if (region_intersects(res->start, resource_size(res),
>                        IORESOURCE_MEM, IORES_DESC_CXL) !=REGION_DISJOINT)
>      /* defer to CXL */;
> 
> and defer to CXL if windows are present. This makes Soft Reserved unavailable 
> once CXL Windows have been discovered, even if CXL_REGION is disabled. That 
> aligns better with the idea that “CXL should win” whenever a window is 
> visible (This also needs to be considered alongside patch 6/6 in my series.)
> 
> With CXL_REGION=n there would be no devdax and no kmem for that range; 
> proc/iomem would show only the windows something like below
> 
> 850000000-284fffffff : CXL Window 0
> 2850000000-484fffffff : CXL Window 1
> 4850000000-684fffffff : CXL Window 2
> 
> That means the memory is left unclaimed/unavailable.. (no System RAM, no 
> /dev/dax). Is that acceptable when CXL_REGION is disabled?

Regarding option [2] (unconditionally loading CXL early):
This approach conflicts with the CXL_REGION Kconfig description mentioned above.


---
To refocus on the original issue – the inability to recreate regions after 
destruction when CXL Windows overlap with Soft Reserved
I believe your patch series "[PATCH 0/6] dax/hmem, cxl: Coordinate Soft 
Reserved handling with CXL" effectively addresses this problem.
  
As for the pre-existing issues with !CXL_REGION and the unimplemented 
DAX_CXL_MODE_REGISTER, I suggest deferring them for now.
They need not be resolved within this patch set, as we should prioritize the 
initial problem.


Thanks
Zhijian

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