On Thu, Jul 02, 2026 at 07:32:15PM +0300, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 02, 2026 at 06:19:15PM +0200, Greg KH wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 02, 2026 at 07:13:30PM +0300, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jul 02, 2026 at 11:57:46AM -0400, Jeff Layton wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 2026-07-02 at 17:07 +0200, Greg KH wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, Jul 02, 2026 at 10:32:48AM -0400, Jeff Layton wrote:
> > > > > > We've had this requirement in place in the Documentation for several
> > > > > > months, but it's becoming clear that the signal to noise ratio from 
> > > > > > this
> > > > > > is quite low.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 1/ It's not universally followed. While many people do try to 
> > > > > > attribute
> > > > > > the LLMs in good faith, not everyone does for various reasons.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Then let's move to get people to follow it.
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 2/ It basically serves as free advertising for proprietary LLM 
> > > > > > companies.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Who cares, make up a name, all I want is the "signal" that someone is
> > > > > using a LLM so that I can review it as-such.  And if I think someone 
> > > > > is
> > > > > not reporting that, I can ask for them to properly attribute it and if
> > > > > they lie, well, that's on them.
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 3/ It's not clear why we want to collect this info in the first 
> > > > > > place.
> > > > > 
> > > > > We want to know if a LLM is being used.
> > > > 
> > > > But why? What do you intend to do with this information?
> > > > 
> > > > Do you mean to use it as an indicator that the patch should receive
> > > > "extra" review (or maybe that it should be ignored)? Do you mean to use
> > > > it to generate some sort of statistics at a later time? 
> > > 
> > > I use the information to decide how to review the patch, and what level
> > > of priority to give it. For that usage I don't need a tag, but I need
> > > the information in some human-readable form at patch submission time.
> > 
> > Same here.  I don't care about stats, I care about "how do I review this
> > patch" and this gives me that signal that I need if faced with a
> > llm-helped patch.
> > 
> > So it needs to stay please.
> 
> There's the free advertising issue we still need to address. Would the
> proposed "Assisted-by: LLM" tag to replace product names be an
> acceptable option for you ?

I really don't care what the tag says, I just want to see the tag stay
to show that this needs to be evaluated differently than if it was made
only by a person.  Some people might want to "show off" their model
names, while other companies I know refuse to allow the name to be
shown, so it really doesn't hurt anyone to keep it as-is.

thanks,

greg k-h

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