On Tue, Oct 13, 2026 at 01:49:36PM +0100, Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM) wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 13, 2026 at 01:19:40PM +0200, Jori Koolstra wrote:
> > > The only long-term solution to that is to hit mark read 1,000 times :)
> >
> > There's a way to nuke drive-by authors and that is to require them to do
> > some kind of "proof-of-effort." So you want to contribute to the kernel?
> > Good, come to one of the OSS conferences, or LPC, or have some well-known
> > maintainer vouch for you, or do the kernel mentorship program. The point
> > is not that this cannot be gamed, but that the "gaming" in itself requires
> > some kind of investment, like proof-of-work.
> 
> Yeah that is a neat idea :) like universities requiring people to be in
> person for exams and shifting grading weight mostly to that.

That's a bad analogy. Try telling those university students that will
have to travel across the globe to sit that exam, and pay for it from
their own pocket.

> Let's not encourage people to ask maintainers for backing though! Maybe
> leave that bit unsaid.
> 
> > We may miss the savant that for whatever reason cannot show up to a 
> > conference,
> > but Linux Foundation is already very supportive of funding people. And 
> > besides,
> > Linus has already made it clear that we can expect of people to be able to 
> > grow
> > into serious community members (which may include being able to effort time 
> > and/or
> > money for LLM access.)
> 
> True. I did worry about people from countries/with lack of means where they
> might struggle with this requirement, but LF help I guess addresses that.

I'm willing to discuss that only based on hard data.

> > This would solve most slop immediately, and we will know about LLM found 
> > bugs
> > anyway from cooperation with Anthropic and just the maintainers using LLMs.
> 
> In mm we're more and more dealing with bug 'fixes' by taking over the
> patch, which is its own workload but will figure out how to do TODOs for
> that in time.

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart

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