Am 22.07.2014 16:27, schrieb Maarten Lankhorst:
op 22-07-14 16:24, Christian König schreef:
No, you really shouldn't be doing much in the check anyway, it's meant to be a 
lightweight check. If you're not ready yet because of a lockup simply return 
not signaled yet.
It's not only the lockup case from radeon I have in mind here. For userspace 
queues it might be necessary to call copy_from_user to figure out if a fence is 
signaled or not.

Returning false all the time is probably not a good idea either.
Having userspace implement a fence sounds like an awful idea, why would you 
want to do that?

Marketing moves in mysterious ways. Don't ask me, but that the direction it currently moves with userspace queues and IOMMU etc...

A fence could be exported to userspace, but that would only mean it can wait 
for it to be signaled with an interface like poll..

Yeah agree totally, but the point for the fence interface is that I can't predict what's necessary to check if a fence is signaled or not on future hardware.

For the currently available radeon hardware I can say that reading a value from a kernel page is pretty much all you need. But for older hardware that was reading from a register which might become very tricky if the hardware is power off or currently inside a reset cycle.

Because off this I would avoid any such interface if it's not absolutely required by some use case, and currently I don't see this requirement because the functionality you want to archive could be implemented without this.

Christian.


~Maarten


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