----- On Oct 3, 2015, at 12:38 AM, dvhart dvh...@infradead.org wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 03:16:53AM +0000, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
>> ----- On Sep 27, 2015, at 10:10 PM, Wang Long long.wangl...@huawei.com wrote:
>> 
>> > Some test's Makefile using "$(RM)" while the other's
>> > using "rm -f". It is better to use one of them in all
>> > tests.
>> 
>> I agree that this disparity appears to be unwanted. We
>> should settle on one or the other.
>> 
>> > 
>> > "rm -f" is better, because it is less magic, and everyone
>> > konws what is does.
>> 
>> "$(RM)" is clearly defined as a Makefile implicit variable
>> which defaults to "rm -f".
>> Ref. 
>> https://www.gnu.org/software/make/manual/html_node/Implicit-Variables.html
>> 
>> Leaving it as a variable is more flexible because then the
>> default behavior can be overridden if need be, which is
>> not the case of a hardcoded "rm -f".
>> 
>> Following your line of argumentation, we should then
>> invoke "gcc" directly in every Makefile because it is
>> less magic than "$(CC)". This makes no sense.
> 
> I don't think they can be compared so simply. Specifying a compiler is a 
> common
> use case. Customizing the rm command is not, in my experience anyway, and like
> Michael, I would definately have to look up what RM means.
> 
> That said, I care more about consistency than which is used. Both are valid, 
> but
> $(RM), while more flexible, will cost more people time to look up what it does
> as it isn't commonly used than any benefit we're likely to see from its use.
> 
> Meh. :-)

An example is "grm" when you install the opencsw repository
packages on Solaris. In the unlikely example where someone
would have a Solaris machine to build Linux, overriding
various command names, including "rm", can be useful. This
is just one example, there are probably others.

Thanks,

Mathieu

> 
> --
> Darren Hart
> Intel Open Source Technology Center

-- 
Mathieu Desnoyers
EfficiOS Inc.
http://www.efficios.com
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