Hi Mauro,

Please take the Patch-set 7 which I submitted by removing my set_band
implementation (as per Hans V suggestion).

https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/5/21/294

Regards
Manju

On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 7:36 AM, Hans de Goede <hdego...@redhat.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
> On 06/19/2012 01:09 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
>>
>> Em 19-06-2012 05:27, Hans de Goede escreveu:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On 06/19/2012 02:47 AM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Em 28-05-2012 07:46, Hans Verkuil escreveu:
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Hans Verkuil <hans.verk...@cisco.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Hans Verkuil <hans.verk...@cisco.com>
>>>>> Acked-by: Hans de Goede <hdego...@redhat.com>
>>>>> ---
>>>>>    include/linux/videodev2.h |   19 +++++++++++++++++--
>>>>>    1 file changed, 17 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>>>>>
>>>>> diff --git a/include/linux/videodev2.h b/include/linux/videodev2.h
>>>>> index 2339678..013ee46 100644
>>>>> --- a/include/linux/videodev2.h
>>>>> +++ b/include/linux/videodev2.h
>>>>> @@ -2023,7 +2023,8 @@ struct v4l2_tuner {
>>>>>        __u32            audmode;
>>>>>        __s32            signal;
>>>>>        __s32            afc;
>>>>> -    __u32            reserved[4];
>>>>> +    __u32            band;
>>>>> +    __u32            reserved[3];
>>>>>    };
>>>>>
>>>>>    struct v4l2_modulator {
>>>>> @@ -2033,7 +2034,8 @@ struct v4l2_modulator {
>>>>>        __u32            rangelow;
>>>>>        __u32            rangehigh;
>>>>>        __u32            txsubchans;
>>>>> -    __u32            reserved[4];
>>>>> +    __u32            band;
>>>>> +    __u32            reserved[3];
>>>>>    };
>>>>>
>>>>>    /*  Flags for the 'capability' field */
>>>>> @@ -2048,6 +2050,11 @@ struct v4l2_modulator {
>>>>>    #define V4L2_TUNER_CAP_RDS        0x0080
>>>>>    #define V4L2_TUNER_CAP_RDS_BLOCK_IO    0x0100
>>>>>    #define V4L2_TUNER_CAP_RDS_CONTROLS    0x0200
>>>>> +#define V4L2_TUNER_CAP_BAND_FM_EUROPE_US     0x00010000
>>>>> +#define V4L2_TUNER_CAP_BAND_FM_JAPAN         0x00020000
>>>>> +#define V4L2_TUNER_CAP_BAND_FM_RUSSIAN       0x00040000
>>>>> +#define V4L2_TUNER_CAP_BAND_FM_WEATHER       0x00080000
>>>>> +#define V4L2_TUNER_CAP_BAND_AM_MW            0x00100000
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Frequency band is already specified by rangelow/rangehigh.
>>>>
>>>> Why do you need to duplicate this information?
>>>
>>>
>>> Because radio tuners may support multiple non overlapping
>>> bands, this is why this patch also adds a band member
>>> to the tuner struct, which can be used to set/get
>>> the current band.
>>>
>>> One example of this are the tea5757 / tea5759
>>> radio tuner chips:
>>>
>>> FM:
>>> tea5757 87.5 - 108 MHz
>>
>>
>>        rangelow = 87.5 * 62500;
>>        rangehigh = 108 * 62500;
>>
>>> tea5759 76 - 91 MHz
>>
>>
>>        rangelow = 76 * 62500;
>>        rangehigh = 91 * 62500;
>>
>>> AM:
>>> Both: 530 - 1710 kHz
>>
>>
>>        rangelow = 0.530 * 62500;
>>        rangehigh = 0.1710 * 62500;
>>
>>
>> See radio-cadet.c:
>>
>> static int vidioc_g_tuner(struct file *file, void *priv,
>>                                struct v4l2_tuner *v)
>> {
>>        struct cadet *dev = video_drvdata(file);
>>
>>        v->type = V4L2_TUNER_RADIO;
>>        switch (v->index) {
>>        case 0:
>>                strlcpy(v->name, "FM", sizeof(v->name));
>>                v->capability = V4L2_TUNER_CAP_STEREO | V4L2_TUNER_CAP_RDS
>> |
>>                        V4L2_TUNER_CAP_RDS_BLOCK_IO;
>>                v->rangelow = 1400;     /* 87.5 MHz */
>>                v->rangehigh = 1728;    /* 108.0 MHz */
>>                v->rxsubchans = cadet_getstereo(dev);
>>                switch (v->rxsubchans) {
>>                case V4L2_TUNER_SUB_MONO:
>>                        v->audmode = V4L2_TUNER_MODE_MONO;
>>                        break;
>>                case V4L2_TUNER_SUB_STEREO:
>>                        v->audmode = V4L2_TUNER_MODE_STEREO;
>>                        break;
>>                default:
>>                        break;
>>                }
>>                v->rxsubchans |= V4L2_TUNER_SUB_RDS;
>>                break;
>>        case 1:
>>                strlcpy(v->name, "AM", sizeof(v->name));
>>                v->capability = V4L2_TUNER_CAP_LOW;
>>                v->rangelow = 8320;      /* 520 kHz */
>>                v->rangehigh = 26400;    /* 1650 kHz */
>>                v->rxsubchans = V4L2_TUNER_SUB_MONO;
>>                v->audmode = V4L2_TUNER_MODE_MONO;
>>                break;
>>        default:
>>                return -EINVAL;
>>        }
>>        v->signal = dev->sigstrength; /* We might need to modify scaling of
>> this
>>  */
>>        return 0;
>> }
>> static int vidioc_s_tuner(struct file *file, void *priv,
>>                                struct v4l2_tuner *v)
>> {
>>        struct cadet *dev = video_drvdata(file);
>>
>>        if (v->index != 0 && v->index != 1)
>>                return -EINVAL;
>>        dev->curtuner = v->index;
>>        return 0;
>> }
>>
>> Band switching are made via g_tuner/s_tuner calls. If a device have
>> several non-overlapping bands, just implement it there. There's no
>> need for a new API.
>
>
> <sigh>, this has been discussed extensively between me, Hans V and
> Halli Manjunatha on both irc and on the list. What the cadet driver is
> doing is an ugly hack, and really a poor match for what we want.
>
> Not to mention that it is a clear violation of the v4l2 spec:
> http://linuxtv.org/downloads/v4l-dvb-apis/tuner.html
>
> "Radio input devices have exactly one tuner with index zero, no video
> inputs."
>
> So there is supposed to be only one tuner, and s_tuner / g_tuner
> on radio devices always expect a tuner index of 0.
>
> Also from the same page:
> "Note that VIDIOC_S_TUNER does not switch the current tuner, when there is
> more than one at all."
>
> So if we model discontinuous ranges as multiple tuners how do we
> select the right tuner? Certainly *not* though s_tuner, as that would
> violate the spec. Note that changing the spec here is not really an option,
> S_TUNER is expected to change the properties of the tuner selected through
> the index, and is *not* expected to change the active tuner , esp. since
> changing the active tuner would raise the question, change the active tuner
> for which input ? The spec is clear on this:
> "The tuner is solely determined by the current video input."
>
> iow s_tuner sets tuner parameters (such as the band of a multi-band tuner),
> but it does not select a tuner. Making s_tuner actually select 1 of multiple
> tuners for radio devices, would cause a large discrepancy between radio and
> tv tuners.
>
> For tv tuners we've a 1:1 mapping between tuners and inputs, which makes
> sense, because
> there are actual dual tuner devices, and the purpose of those is to be able
> to watch /
> record 2 "shows" at the same time. This is simply not the case with these
> radio devices,
> they can tune both AM and FM but *not* at the same time, so they have a
> *single*
> *multiple-band* tuner.
>
> Modeling this as multiple tuners is just wrong. Not only have we already
> discussed
> this in a long discussion, I've patches to extend the tea575x driver with AM
> support,
> and the initial revision used the multiple tuner model, but that just does
> not work
> well, and I'm bad Hans V. intervened and pointed out Halli Manjunatha's
> patchset for
> limiting hw-freq seek ranges, after which all of this has been discussed
> extensively!
>
>
>> Also, this is generic enough to cover even devices with non-standard
>> frequency ranges.
>>
>> All bands can easily be detected via a g_tuner loop, and band switching
>> is done via s_tuner.
>>
>> Each band range can have its name ("AM", "FM", "AM-SW", "FM-Japan", ...),
>> and this is a way more generic than what's being proposed.
>
>
> It is also very very wrong, there is only a single tuner on these devices,
> modeling this as multiple tuners is just wrong!
>
>
>> It likely makes sense to standardize the band names inside the radio core,
>> in order to avoid having the same band called with two different names
>> inside
>> the drivers.
>>
>> It should also be noticed that each band may have different properties.
>> On the above, the FM band can do stereo/mono and RDS, while AM is just
>> mono So, a change like what's proposed would keep requiring two entries.
>
>
> With FM we already have a situation where some channels are mono and other
> stereo, with AM/FM the tuner capabilities would reflect what the tuner can
> do on some bands-frequency combinations, just like it now reflects what
> it can do on some frequencies.
>
> <snip>
>
>
>>> 87.5 - 108 MHz is very close to 88 - 108 MHz, I don't think it is worth
>>> creating 2 band defines for this.
>>
>>
>> Yes, it is very close, but Countries that added the extra 500 kHz
>> bandwidth
>> added stations there. On those, older devices can't tune into the new
>> channels.
>
>
> On those older devices rangelow would get reported as 88 rather then 87.5,
> the
> band selection mechanism is there to select a certain range approximately,
> the exact resulting range will be hw specific and reported in rangelow /'
> rangehigh, as the patch documenting the new fields clearly documents.
>
> <snip>
>
>
>>> This would be covered by the V4L2_TUNER_BAND_FM_UNIVERSAL, however,
>>> on some devices V4L2_TUNER_BAND_FM_UNIVERSAL may include the weather
>>> band,
>>> thus going all the way from 76 - 163 Mhz, so I guess we should add a
>>> V4L2_TUNER_BAND_FM_JAPAN_WIDE for this. Note that the si470x already
>>> supports this, and indeed calls it "Japan wide band"
>>
>>
>> That's why giving them name via defines is a bad thing: the concept of
>> "universal" changes from time to time: 15 years ago, an "universal" radio
>> is a device that were able to tune at AM-SW, AM-MW, AM-HW and FM
>> (88-108MHz).
>>
>> An "universal FM" radio used to be 76-108 MHz, but, with the weather band,
>> it is now 76-163 Mhz.
>>
>> If a band like that is described as "FM" with a frequency range from 76
>> to 163 MHz, this is clearer than calling it as "FM unversal".
>
>
> We will still have rangelow and rangehigh to report the actual implemented
> band. So there is no problem here. An app can select universal and then
> figure out what universal is on the specific device it is using with a
> G_TUNER.
>
> <snip>
>
>
>>> So lets get back to the basis, for AM/FM switching / limiting hw-freq
>>> seeking, and on some devices likely even just to be able to tune to
>>> certain frequencies we need to select a band with various radio devices.
>>>
>>> On some radio devices we may be able to just program the seek range, but
>>> on
>>> most it is hardcoded based on a band selection register.
>>
>>
>> Except due to regulatory requirements, the driver could just expose the
>> broadest range. That's what I did with tea5767, as it allows using either
>> an "universal" range from 76 to 108 MHz, or to limit it to 88.5-108MHz.
>>
>>> So we need some way of naming the bands, with approx. expected ranges
>>> (the real range supported by the specific device will be reported on a
>>> G_TUNER).
>>>
>>> Looking at:
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FM_broadcast_band
>>>
>>> I suggest naming the bands after their standards, except for the Japanese
>>> bands which are special and I suggest just naming them after their
>>> country, resulting in:
>>>
>>> #define V4L2_TUNER_BAND_FM_CCIR        1 /* 87.5 - 108 Mhz */
>>
>>
>> CCIR is a bad (and obsolete) name.
>
>
> Ok, so we call it V4L2_TUNER_BAND_FM_STANDARD, since it seems to
> be what most of the world is either using or moving too (most of the
> former USSR has also moved to a range of 87.5 - 108, rather then the
> OIRT bands).
>
>
>> It is a bad name because it is the name of the Radio committee of the ITU,
>> and this committee standardizes all radio ranges, not only the above.
>>
>> It is an obsolete name, as CCIR was renamed to ITU-R, back in 1992[1].
>>
>> Btw, take a look at ITU-R BS.450-3 spec, table 1a[2]: it defines several
>> ranges there:
>>        87.5-108
>>        88-108
>>        88-100          (Norway)
>
>
> Standard
>
>>        66-73           (Gambia)
>>        66-74           (Lithuania)
>
>
> OIRT
>
>>        87.8-108        (US)
>>        100-108         (India)
>
>
> Standard
>
>>        76-90           (Japan)
>
>
> Japan
>
> Note that currently several drivers already implement a band concept in some
> way, ie in the tea5767 driver, you expose this through a config flag called
> japan_band,
> and that at least the saa7134 and cx88 cards code adds a tea5767 tuner
> with the japan_band flag set to 0, resulting in not getting the wide band,
> but the
> small band, and thus likely not working in japan. Also note that since the
> tea5767
> radio tuner driver uses the standard tuner framework, it reports a hardcoded
> range
> of 65-108 (radio_range in drivers/media/video/tuner-core.c) independent of
> the
> japan_band parameter.
>
> The si470x driver has a band *module* parameter instead, note though that in
> both cases
> the (average) user ends up with a hardcoded band, where he should be able to
> adjust it
> to match the country/regio he is in...
>
> So we really need some way to enumerate and set radio-bands, not
> radio-tuners, but
> radio-bands, and that is exactly what the proposed API gives us in a nice
> and simple
> way.
>
> Regards,
>
> Hans
>
>
>
>
>
>
>



-- 
Regards
Halli
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