Linux-Misc Digest #447, Volume #18                Sun, 3 Jan 99 09:13:15 EST

Contents:
  Re: Advice on building an AXP Linux system ("Christian J. Bauer")
  Re: How do i configure named properly? (Enkidu)
  Re: mp3 on a 486 anyone? (Victor Wagner)
  Re: Proxy?!?!? (Victor Wagner)
  Re: WP8 installation (djb)
  Re: Initialization (Enkidu)
  Re: grep to a tab ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  second hard disk doesn't recognized. ("alextay")
  Re: How do i configure named properly? (mist)
  Compiling kernel - Error (Merzinger Markus)
  Re: help me choose license ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Printer woes!! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: ATI Xpert 98 with 8 M. (Steve and Kathy)
  Re: RAMDISK in RedHat 5.2, what are them for? Can remove them? (Jeremy Mathers)
  Re: Infringement of the GPL (Michael Powe)
  Re: I am a Unix convert (Johan Kullstam)

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From: "Christian J. Bauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.alpha,comp.os.linux.hardware,linux.redhat.axp
Subject: Re: Advice on building an AXP Linux system
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 10:33:40 +0100

Gerald Koh wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...

>I have just stumbled upon a Digital AXPpxi 33 motherboard.
>...
>My question is: Is it worth it?

Well it depends what you're willing to pay. It's the same design as the
multia, so you better choose a cheap multia. AXPpci33 boards (including
256kb Cache and a 21066 chip at 166 Mhz) go for about 100 $ new today. For
this price you can pickup a new Multia (same configuration including case,
graphics card, ethernet, sound and floppy) from www.cpumicromart.com. Choose
the "external connection" option and you can boot from a standard external
SCSI drive.

>The OEM design guide is dated 1994.  Is
>this board too piss ass slow to be useful for anything?  Maybe it could
>serve some menial intranet purpose in my house.

I have some AXPpci33 runing Redhat 5.1 and WindowsNT 4.0. It's not a
screamer, but it performs like a 100 MHz Pentium. Good enough for a web
server. It's even running a SQL Server with decent performance.

>The list of hardware in the design guide is quite out of date, I'm sure
>I could pick up a case, 4 gig SCSI2 drive, and some cheap ass 64 bit
>video card and have something that works.  Any recomendations? I figure
>I'll run Red Hat 5.2 on it.

Remember: DEC Boards need true parity ram! Also, don't choose "exotic"
graphics controllers. A Cirruc Chip won't work in mine, wheras all S3 chips
does. Whereas WindowsNT only supports only few of them (no Support for Virge
....), Linux is fine with most of them.

>Thanks,
>Gerry


You're welcome!
Chris





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From: Enkidu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How do i configure named properly?
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 22:59:18 +1300
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Bill Unruh wrote:
> 
> I have a really hard time understanding why you want to use
> named. Do you really have a network of hundreds of machines you
> are trying to control spread across a bunch of subdomains? Since
> you have an ISP, I suspect you have a few machines, in which
> case named is painful overkill (painful because you have to 
> try to figure it out, as you ae having trouble doing).
>
Well, I have a Win95 box as Internet gateway and run a crappy
Win95 proxy. The DNS service provided by the proxy is brain-dead,
so I used named to provide the DNS for the three machines I have,
and to access the DNS on the Internet (the proxy will forward
DNS calls). Plus I wanted to learn about named!

Cliff

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Victor Wagner)
Subject: Re: mp3 on a 486 anyone?
Date: 2 Jan 1999 15:14:53 +0300
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Mg ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: I have a 486DX2/66 MHz at home, running Red Hat Linux 5.0 (just in case
: some of you were interested ;-).  I can listen to mp3 files (even the 128
: Kbit
: 44.1kHz 16-bit stereo ones, well, downsampled from 44.1 to 22.05 KHz mono)
: under DOS (OpenCP) or Windows (WinAmp), but unfortunately I haven't found
: a mp3 player for Linux that could play them in real time (none of the ones I
: tried
: has an option of reducing the quality). Does anyone know of such a mp3
: player for slower computers?

: P.S. I would really appreciate a copy of replies by e-mail.

mpg123. 
I was able to listen mpegs on 486Dx266 when in X and have large latex 
job running in another xterm. Latest version also supports NAS, so it
can be run on more powerful box if you have one around.

: Marius Gedminas
: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Victor Wagner)
Subject: Re: Proxy?!?!?
Date: 2 Jan 1999 15:39:51 +0300
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Jonas =?iso-8859-1?Q?Lundstr=F6m?= ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Hello...

: I wan't to set up a proxy and I am not so familiar with Linux...
: Is there anyone who could give me some tips in what to use!!

There are a bunch of HOW-TOs on the subject:
IP-Masqerading HOWTO,
Firewall HOWTO (this seems to be too newbie thing, but read anyway)

: And is there any security bugs?!? What version of Linux, Proxy!?!?
Of course, there are. You'll have to read Bugtraq on regular basis and
install updates from time to time if
you want to have system reasonable secure.


As a rule of thumb I'll suggest following

1. Always run latest stable kernel (2.0.36 at present) except in the
time when second digit is changed. When 2.2.0 final comes out install
it on some non-production machine and test for a while before putting it
to work. May be wait for 2.2.3 or 2.2.5 to be sure that most important
bugs are fixed.

2. Use squid for http/ftp proxy. Again latest production version.

3. Use sendmail for mta. It has probably more holes than exim or qmail,
  but more workarounds as well. And it is more widely texted.


4. Use securelevel patch and make most important binaries and even
configs immutable. Oh, it is a big trouble to put system into singleuser
just to fix a line in config, but it also prevent this config from being
remotely hacked.

5. Don't run telnetd and rlogind on proxy/firewall machine. Better not
to run inetd at all. 
Security from remote hack worth trouble of walking to console.

: It shall be as secure as posible, so please give me some reliable tips!!

: Thanx,
: //Jonas

-- 
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I have tin news and pine mail...
Victor Wagner @ home       =         [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (djb)
Subject: Re: WP8 installation
Date: 3 Jan 1999 10:02:40 GMT

On Sun, 03 Jan 1999 07:07:16 GMT, William Wueppelmann
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In article
><voCckDAPYkj2Ew$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Neil Durant wrote:
>>Hi,
>>   I'm trying to install WP8 (downloaded version) onto my Redhat 5.1
>>system.  I've got to the part of the installation wizard thing in
>>X-Windows which asks for the registration number "which is on the
>>registration card" - however, having downloaded WP8 I don't have a
>>registration card!!!!  I went to the Corel site and registered myself
>>and got a registration number, but the installation program won't
>>accept it.  What am I supposed to enter into that box??
>
>For the registration number
>
>1) it's probably case-sensitive
>2) the `-' should be omitted
>3) The `Key' should be included
>4) No spaces anywhere
>
>It took me a few tries, but the key I got worked when I followed those
>rules.

But mine works when the '-' is *included* and the 'key' is *excluded*.

David.

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From: Enkidu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Initialization
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 23:04:13 +1300
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> How can I find out the order in which the Initalization files
> are read when Linux starts up.  I want to modify some of the
> settings, but don't know what file to put the lines in.
> 
/etc/inittab determines what gets run when. On my slackware
system when linux boots inittab tells it to run /etc/rc.d/rc.S
(single user). Then rc.S starts rc.M (multiple user).

Cliff

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: grep to a tab
Date: 3 Jan 1999 09:22:49 GMT

Dave Packard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Actually what I was trying to do was match ^.*22.*\t (change 22 to
> whatever you want).  The first column of the database is the product
> number and I want to be able to find any product with "22" in the
> product number, but not in the description, price, etc.
> 
> My grep won't find any lines if I do \t though, although I know there
> are tabs in the file.  It also won't find [:space:]  either...  Any
> ideas?

There are two problems with your pattern.  The first is that grep (at
least the version I'm using, GNU grep 2.2) doesn't recognize \t as a
tab.  You may have to use a real tab character here.  The second is that
.* will match any character, including a tab.  Consequently, this
pattern will also match a 22 in the price field, for example, as long as
that isn't the last field in the line.  To match a 22 anywhere in the
first field, use

    ^[^\t]*22

Note that I have used \t for tab for readability.  To match a 22 in the
second field, use

    ^[^\t]*\t[^\t]*22

Gary

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From: "alextay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: second hard disk doesn't recognized.
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 18:53:13 +0800

hi,

can some body kind enought to tell me how to make linux recognized my second
scsi hard disk?  linux was first installed in the first hard disk with the
root partition "/"  mounted to 'dev/sda1'.  a similar scsi hard disk was
added later and was formated by fdisk under device name 'dev/sdb1'.  I would
like to mount a directory call 'data/' to sdb1 but found that sdb1 was not
recognize by the os,  it doesn't show up when I type the command 'df'.
what should I do now?  any advice are welcome most and thanks in advance.
BTW, we used 4 linux box to served 50 win98 client with samba server
installed.



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From: mist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How do i configure named properly?
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 11:15:38 +0000
Reply-To: mist <{$mist$}@misthaven.demon.co.uk>

Enkidu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribed to us that -
>Bill Unruh wrote:
>> 
>> I have a really hard time understanding why you want to use
>> named. Do you really have a network of hundreds of machines you
>> are trying to control spread across a bunch of subdomains? Since
>> you have an ISP, I suspect you have a few machines, in which
>> case named is painful overkill (painful because you have to 
>> try to figure it out, as you ae having trouble doing).
>>
>Well, I have a Win95 box as Internet gateway and run a crappy
>Win95 proxy. The DNS service provided by the proxy is brain-dead,
>so I used named to provide the DNS for the three machines I have,
>and to access the DNS on the Internet (the proxy will forward
>DNS calls). Plus I wanted to learn about named!
>
<AOL> Me too! </AOL>

I would have given a full reply to the post above, but it no longer
appears on my machine.. The main reasons for running named are
experience, because I want to, and because I'd rather have the
"complete" thing.  Unfortunately it doesn't seem to be an easy thing to
learn about, the only way of picking things up is from the other people
who've already done it.  Not that this is a bad thing but it does make
you wonder who the one person is who knew the stuff to begin with...


-- 
Mist.
http://www.misthaven.demon.co.uk/prof/
Short FAQ on Demon and HTML.

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Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 11:38:07 +0000
From: Merzinger Markus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Compiling kernel - Error



Hi!

I have Suse 5.3 and tried to recompile my kernel for serveral times. The
result was always a compile error while "make zImage". Some time ago I
had more luck!

I think my ".config" file and the sources are a little bit scrambled.

Has anybody a idea what I have to reinstall to get a working .config and
sources?


TAI, Mercy

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: help me choose license
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 04:31:30 GMT

Byron A Jeff writes:
> See the GPL doesn't prevent someone from selling a copy of the code (for
> a reasonable copying fee I think the license states)...

The GPL places no limit on the price you can charge.

> Any company that wanted to could simply take your library and run all
> they copies they like without paying an penny. Their obligation is only
> to redistribute any mods they make to the code.

If they use his library they must either GPL their program or buy a
commercial license from him.
-- 
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Printer woes!!
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 11:48:20 GMT

Chris,
I had exactly the same problem with my BJC-4000.  What you need to do is to
comment out the "COLOR=" line in the postscript.cfg file in the lp directory
for the BJC-4000.  Once I did that, I could print postscript perfectly.

TB

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Chris Rideout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I recently installed Redhat 5.2 on my computer and have been trying to
> configure my BJC 4000 printer.  I can get it to print text perfectly,
> but I cannot print postscript.  When I try to print postscript the paper
>
> simply shows:
>
> Unrecoverable error: rangecheck in .putdeviceprops
> (1488)op_array(486)0x817b0d4:Execution stack at 0x813ccc8:
>
> followed by a mess of numbers and such.   I have tried the apsfilter but
>
> it does not have a driver for the BJC-4000.  I also downloaded
> ghostscript 5.10 and this didn't work either.  I would greatly
> appreciate it if anyone could explain this to me or provide a solution!!
>
> CR
>
>

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From: Steve and Kathy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: ATI Xpert 98 with 8 M.
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 07:36:40 -0800

Running Caldera 1.3 with the ATI Expert 98 (1280x1024 at 24 bits) on a Dell
Dimension.  When setting up X choose the Mach64 server then try either of the 2 (i
think) Expert cipsets (at work and play) that show up.  Check your monitors manual
for the horizontal and vertical frequencies.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Although in principle you should use the Mach64 server for your video
> > card, it seems not to work always - at least, it didn't for me. I was
> > forced to use the SVGA server instead, and at a lower resolution. I have
> > a Xpert@play98, which uses exactly the same Mach64_RagePro chipset as
> > yours.
> >
> > MST
>
> XFree86_3.3.3 works fine with Xpert98. The configuration programs can't
> detect the memory. You have to specify this (8M) manually in XF86Config. If
> interested I can e-mail you my config file.
>
> Silviu
>
> >
> > dfjjhg wrote:
> > >
> > > i have ATI Xpert 98 with 8 M.
> > > i need to know how to config it.
> > > Redhat 5.1 asked me about the March64, Si3, ..... What are they?
> > > Redhat 5.1 also asked me to choose 50-120...,50-90... but none is for my
> > > monitor. how do i choose the one for my monitor.
> > > right now, i got very weired color for my monitor. red is not red, blue is
> > > not blue......
> > > can you help me?
> >
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeremy Mathers)
Subject: Re: RAMDISK in RedHat 5.2, what are them for? Can remove them?
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 12:51:14 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Choon-Cheng Chee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have just upgraded a RH 4.1 to RH5.2. I noticed that there are a
>number of RAMdisks being created when the system boots up. Any idea
>what are they used for? Is it advisible to remove them to save memory?

I imagine you are referring to the "Created 16 RAMdisks of 4096 bytes"
message that appears on boot.  Don't worry about it.

No memory is used until you actually allocate the RAM disks (with
mke2fs /dev/ram[x]).

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From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Infringement of the GPL
Date: 02 Jan 1999 23:22:39 -0800

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>>>>> "Floyd" == Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

    >> In particular a contract requires explicit agreement by both
    >> parties, an agreement which would be difficult to demonstrate
    >> in the case of someone using GPL code.

    Floyd> As has been pointed out several times now, if that were
    Floyd> clearly true then the GPL would have been into the courts
    Floyd> several times by now and we would have rulings on it.  That
    Floyd> hasn't happened because nobody who has the money to try it
    Floyd> seems to think they could win the case.

Besides which, every piece of software, whether commercial or
shareware or open source, comes with a 'license agreement.'  Ignorance
of the terms of that license would have no more validity in a court
than ignorance of the speed limit has in traffic court.  To claim that
none of those agreements have force of law is patently absurd.

mp

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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.admin,comp.sys.hp.hpux
Subject: Re: I am a Unix convert
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 03 Jan 1999 08:50:44 -0500

Ade Barkah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Ilya wrote:
> > How does not partition a 9GB hard drive?  Do you allocate all the 
> > space to the partitions like /var, /opt and /usr, /var/adm/crash or 
> > can you allocate only half of it to the operating system and then 
> > increase the size of a partition on the basis of need? I am mostly 
> > familiar with the Logical Volume Manager found on HP-UX and AIX.
> 
> FreeBSD does not have jfs&LVM, and so you cannot resize filesystems on 
> the fly. But, you can keep things easy. Say, allocate <50mb for /, use 
> the 2x RAM for swap, and 1 Gb for /usr and you're done. =-)

not quite, there's no /home and i doubt you want to limit yourself to
the 50 Mb less whatever you need to stick the kernel and /bin /etc
/sbin &c stuff in there.

a simple plan is to do 1-2 G for root (/), circa 1-2 * RAM for swap
and leave the rest in /home.  this retains almost all the ease of use
of one giant partition, and lets you keep stuff in /home should you
wish to upgrade the operating system afresh (i just tar and store /etc
when refreshing the OS for easy restoration of configs).

i tried thinking of how to separate the more changing stuff,
(basically /tmp, /var and /home) from the static stuff (everything
else).  during initialization, you can make /tmp and /var point into
/home with the above /, /home, swap three partitions.  thus your
statics will almost surely be sync'd should a catastrophe occur.

>  Later you 
> can always add more partitions as needed (for mail, temp, home, etc.) 
> If this is for personal use you can even get away with just the root 
> and swap partitions, and let everything else fall under /. Btw, /opt 
> is considered evil on FreeBSD. =-)

more partitions might be good, but since they are difficult to change,
i would suggest not being overly partition happy.

hope this helps.

-- 
Johan Kullstam [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Don't Fear the Penguin!

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