Linux-Misc Digest #529, Volume #18 Sat, 9 Jan 99 06:13:09 EST
Contents:
Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers (Andy Thomas)
Re: Linux: Fight for survival or on victory march? (Arthur)
Re: Linux: Fight for survival or on victory march? (Chris Johnson)
How to mount a SCO eafs scsi Hard disk ("phlefevre")
Remove LILO (Vialli Wong)
Re: .bz2 ? (Bob McGowan)
Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers (David Kastrup)
Re: Wharf (Victor Danilchenko)
Re: Remove LILO (Arthur Chiu)
Re: Linux: Fight for survival or on victory march? (BR)
Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers (David H. McCoy)
Re: How do I get the kernel source off the ROM CD? (Jim Shaffer, Jr.)
Re: Linux on Netfinity with IBM ServRAID II SCSI-adapter (Dan Mack)
Re: Where can I find these programs?... (Yves Guerin)
Help! I'm locked out! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers ("Poison Ivan")
Re: restarting apps without rebooting (Floyd Davidson)
Re: 98/Linux install partition question (Yves Guerin)
Re: NOSPAM in addresses.. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Copying linux system.... (Eric Potter)
Re: Linux: Fight for survival or on victory march? (Dave)
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From: Andy Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 08:33:22 +0000
On 8 Jan 1999, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steven C. Den Beste) writes:
>
> > Perhaps because they're not? Perhaps because the rumor about instability is
> > an urban legend based on anecdotal evidence, and not grounded on anything
> > statistically valid?
>
> Over Christmas I was in my parents' house and used my father's Windows
> 95 box a while.
>
> I did three things with it:
> I browsed the web with Internet Explorer
> I used telnet
> I used a proprietary bridge playing program (GIB)
>
> Over the course of a week, it crashed several times. One time it
> crashed apparently because I moved the telnet window on the desktop as
> GIB was loading. Other times it just hung. Sometimes I'd hit
> CTRL-ALT-DEL in order to forcibly kill the running task, which had
> hosed itself somehow, and then the whole machine would freeze up. It
> was amazing to me.
>
> I got back to my Unixoid machines, Linux, Solaris, Irix, etc., and ran
> uptime. They had been up for hundreds of days. And they didn't crash
> before that either; rather, they just needed to be rebooted in order
> to take a software upgrade or because a hardware change was made.
>
> When Windows 98 was rolled out, some people handed out GNU/Linux CD
> Roms on the sidewalk to the journalists. They'd say "Here's an
> operating system that doesn't crash" and the journalists didn't
> believe that such a thing was possible. Because, you see, they only
> used Microsoft products.
Although I don't think the Linux newsgroups is the place to moan about
Microsoft and its products (after all, we're all in the Linux groups
because we already know how bad MS is and we are already using a superior
alternative) but I will permit myself just one posting on this topic ...
I really do sympathise with Thomas - I do not use MS Windows of any
description (except occasionally at work to run FoxPro in a DOS window and
some specialised modem rack management software) and have been running
Linux exclusively for the past 4 years. But at home, we have one PC
running Windows (currently Windows98) for my 4 year-old son to run DOS and
Windows children's educational/fun programs on (mostly Dorling Kindersley
multimedia titles) and this PC has given us the most grief over the last 2
years.
In an attempt to get a stable PC that a child can use and enjoy, it has
had more time and money spent on it than all the other computers here (7
PCs and 1 Mac) - it has had motherboards, faster CPUs, bigger hard disks,
more RAM, faster CD-ROM drives and various versions of Windows from 3.1
all the way to NT4 thrown at it and STILL it is unreliable. Even though it
is the most powerful system here (350 MHz AMD K6, 64 meg RAM, Matrox G200
AGP, Creative AWE 64, 9 Gig HD, etc) it still crashes and GPFs 2 or 3
times daily, still freezes every so often for 15 seconds or so and, from
time to time, still only prints part of a colour picture to the Epson 400
attached to its parallel port (alhough it will print fine over the network
to the Epson 800 on my main Linux box, which runs Samba).
I work in computing and networking in a professional capacity - and
have done so since the days of S100 bus, CP/M, PETs, Apple IIs and the BBC
micro - but I am still be made to look pretty dumb in the eyes of my
family for failing to deliver an ordinary working family PC! Contrast this
with the pile of old 486 systems in my study running various versions of
Linux with uptimes of many months (downtime only for machine upgrades) -
my wife (totally non-computer literate) is continually asking why is there
a huge disparity between my old computers and Elliot's costly wonder?
We have to use MS Windows of some sort on my son's PC - there is simply no
children's software available for Linux that I know of. I have written to
Dorling Kindersley UK telling them of the growing usage of Linux and
suggesting that in addition to Windows PCs and Macs, they also bring out
Linux/X-windows versions of their excellent titles. I did not even get a
reply. Yet I continue to buy their software as my son likes it and it is
undoubtedly good. Most DK titles say on the box that the minimum system
requirements are a 486/33 running Windows 3.1 - where am I going wrong?
Its all very frustrating but I've had my say and feel better for it -
anyone else in a similar situation?
Andy
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From: Arthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux: Fight for survival or on victory march?
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 02:01:37 -0800
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> there are 300 millions in the US alone who use windows everyday and think
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> you blow smoke. if Linux applications are so much, and Linux is so much easier
> and better than windows, and it is free, then why is it hardly anyone out
> there in the real world uses it????? (other than the few geeks offcourse).
That's every man, woman, child, illegal alien and tourist,
and I think might include some dogs and cats as well.
ROFLMAO.
Arthur
Who does blow smoke but would like to quit.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Johnson)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux: Fight for survival or on victory march?
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 04:02:48 -0500
In article <776psp$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>yea? just to let you know, I won first place at my school arguing
>compition. out of 50 students, I was the only one left arguning when
>eveyone gave up. so, here you go.
Welcome to Usenet :)
Chris (welcome _home!_) Johnson
@airwindows.com
chrisj
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From: "phlefevre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How to mount a SCO eafs scsi Hard disk
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 10:02:21 +0100
Hi,
I'm new with linux but not with unix, and I'm discovering what I always
would get before : the way to really put my hands in motor oil !!
many thanks !
my question is : anybody knows how to mount my developpement account located
on a 2nd scsi hard drive formated with SCO 3.2.v4 EAFS under Linux RedHat
2.0.34 ?
clearly, I would like to migrate step by step all my stuff from SCO to LINUX
but, at least for a while, keep a way to access it both under SCO and LINUX
(I'd like to change only the system disk)
The scsi controller is a Tekram 390
both disks are Quantum LPS525
Linux Kernel version is 2.0.34
Thank you very much.
Phil.
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From: Vialli Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Remove LILO
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 15:26:13 +0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I wanna remove LILO temporarily because I am going to re-install my
window95 on my computer.
Can I still boot my window95 directly from harddisk after I remove the
LILO from the master boot record (MBR)?
Thanks for any reply.
(I use boot floppy to boot up Linux then)
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Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 22:49:14 -0800
From: Bob McGowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: .bz2 ?
Sankara Gara wrote:
>
> How to uncompress .bz2 files. Thanks!
bunzip2
bzip2 makes them.
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bob dot mcgowan at usa dot net
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From: David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
Date: 09 Jan 1999 10:30:25 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Larry) writes:
> On 08 Jan 1999 01:57:01 +0100, David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ruhr-uni-bochum.de> wrote:
> >"Netnerd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> >> The consumer has spoken, but will this affect Penfield Jackson�s
> >> rulings? Of course not, a biased and angry Penfield will rule
> >> against Microsoft on every count and impose the most severe penalty
> >> he believes possible. But not to worry, there is a contingency plan
> >> in place regardless the DOJ trial and appeals outcome. Long live
> >> Microsoft.
> >
> >Well, in *our* country court cases are decided by the law, not by
> >public votes, but of course, in the land that has made lynching
> >popular the procedures might be different.
>
> This from the country that made mass-gassing and ovens popular.
But they were not run by public vote. The whole country was run by
mad authorities and everybody was following along like sheep. Just
the opposite of lynch justice.
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Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 15:56:00 -0500
From: Victor Danilchenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Wharf
Stefan Berg wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> How do i configure Wharf? I run afterstep on a RH 5.1 machine. My primary
> interest is to change it's geometry (smaller), I have looked for config
> files. The only one I find which seems appropriate is
> /usr/share/afterstep/wharf
> but I don't succeed in changing Wharf's geometry...
Afterstep manpage explains it. As I recall, when you run Afterstep for
the first time, it creates a GNUStep directory in your home; the default
settings in /usr/share/afterstep are used just once, to set your
defaults. After that, you have to create a file named (I think) .wharf
(details in the afterstep and wharf manpages) in directory
~/GNUstep/Afterstep (I think -- details in the man pages).
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From: Arthur Chiu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Remove LILO
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 17:07:39 +0800
Try fdisk /mbr.
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From: BR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux: Fight for survival or on victory march?
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 04:15:15 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> >
>
> >
> >>This thing has been free for 3 years, and yet %90 of home users still use
> >>windows and applications written for windows.
> >
> >What an assinine argument!
> >
>
> yea? just to let you know, I won first place at my school arguing
> compition. out of 50 students, I was the only one left arguning when
> eveyone gave up. so, here you go.
You want to brag about THAT?
> >
> >Windows comes pre-installed in damn near every computer sold unless the
> >customer requests something else.
>
> yea, sure. first, one of you guys claim that Linux will be popular because
> it is free. now you claim the reason Linux is used becuase Windows is
> pre-installed.
>
> why dont you guys make up your minds which is it??
Why don't you learn to read?
>
> >
> >Same goes for apps as goes for the OS. Install linux on every computer sold
> >and OF COURSE people are going to be buying Linux apps.
> >
>
> Nothing prevents anyone from downloading Linux for free and installing
> it. but after many years, still people are not doing this and there are
> today more Window PC than ever!
>
Guess the concept of pre-loading escapes you.
> >Winblows apps can't hold a candle to Linux apps when it comes to quality
> >and stability.
>
> really? this is why eveyone call Netscape on Linux junk while the same
> Netscape product on windows is cool?? is this why Corel wordperfect 8 on
> Linux looks so bad on Linux while same one on NT looks so much better?
This 'everyone' person should get royalties every time someone uses his
name.
> I can go on and on. as a matter of fact, applications on Linux are worst
> than those on windows. just mention ONE user oritented application on Linux
> that is better than its counterpart on Windows. just ONE !
>
> >And ease of use is relative. As far as I'm concerned, and
> >those I work with, Linux apps are much easier to use than those written for
> >winco's CRASH-O-MATIC.
> >
>
> this is so silly. you and those you work with?? how many will that be, 3 people?
>
> there are 300 millions in the US alone who use windows everyday and think
> you blow smoke. if Linux applications are so much, and Linux is so much easier
> and better than windows, and it is free, then why is it hardly anyone out
> there in the real world uses it????? (other than the few geeks offcourse).
This is so closed minded it isn't even funny.
> >
> >I'm sorry but you lose,
> >Thanks for playing.
>
> No. You lose big time.
> thanks for showing us how little you know about computers and software.
Unmitigated gail.
> Bob (call me Bill too, it is no problem).
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David H. McCoy)
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 15:42:47 -0500
In article <775mj1$kbf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
says...
>
>
>>
>> PS: You can manipulate statistics to show anything you want. 29% of people
>> know that :).
>>
>> ---------------
>> From the OS/2 WARP v4 Desktop of Brad BARCLAY.
>> E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://yaztromo.idirect.com
>> Public PGP Key available upon request. [ ] VoiceType Dictated.
>>
>>
>
>That�s true, you could ask me if putting one predominate OS on the market is a
>good thing and I would say yes. Products get developed faster and they end up
>in our hands faster. Product developers have been bagging for this for years.
>But it causes just as many problems as it fixes.
>
>
>Faster product development.(Windows changes so fast developers cant keep up)
>One OS. (Over charge for the product. If you had Win95 and move to 98 the
>upgrade is $80US, FOR THE UPGRADE!!!)
>Ect�..ect��
OS/2 was $125 for the upgrade to Warp 4.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Shaffer, Jr.)
Subject: Re: How do I get the kernel source off the ROM CD?
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 20:29:49 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 05 Jan 1999 11:40:20 -0500, Yan Seiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>I am at my wit's end. I've been trying to get the kernel source off a
>RH 5.1 CD (the second one.) I can see the kernel____.src.rpm. When I
>try to use rpm (rpm -ivv kernel___.src.rpm) I get the diagnostics, it
>pauses, says it's installing a source RPM, takes some time, and the
>source NEVER APPEARS ANYWHERE. I even ran it with the cute little
>status indicator. It scrolls by, no error messages, and no source.
You have the same problem I did. You don't want the kernel "source RPM" from
the second disk, you want the "kernel source" RPM from the FIRST disk.
Don't ask me what the "source RPM"s are. Some sort of data files for building
RPMs, I think. RPMs aren't the reason I bought Red Hat, and I tend not to use
them.
Another thing you should beware of is that the kernel supplied by Red Hat may be
an interim patch, i.e. 2.0.3X-preY, so if you download a patch for 2.0.3Z, it
won't apply properly since Red Hat's source is no longer 2.0.3X.
--
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From: Dan Mack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Linux on Netfinity with IBM ServRAID II SCSI-adapter
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 14:20:47 -0600
Miguel De Buf wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
> I'm stuck with a Netfinity 5500, and I would like to install RH5.2 on
> it. But there is no SCSI-driver recognizing the IBM ServRAID II adapter
> ?
>
> Anyone experience with this, any help is very appreciated,
We are in the same boat. This is what we did:
1. moved jumper J11 to disable the RAID controller. There is no
driver for the ServRAID II adapter that I could find.
2. installed our own SCSI card and hooked it up to the drive bays.
Seems to work for us... IF you get the RAID working with Linux, PLEASE
LET ME KNOW!!!
Dan
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From: Yves Guerin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Where can I find these programs?...
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 16:08:38 -0500
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Hello,
Go to : http://windowmaker.mezaway.org/dockapps/dockapps.html
Brian Howe wrote:
> Jan Lundstrom wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone know what these programs are called and where can I find them?
> > See attached picture.
> >
> > Jan Lundstrom
> > http://195.67.108.20/user/sdujalm/lcc.nsf
> >
> > [Image]
> They are dockable apps that can be found at freshmeat.net (archives) and at
> e.themes.org too.
> --
> Brian Howe
>
> Unix geek in training.
> "Insanity is doing the same thing over
> and over and expecting different results."
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Help! I'm locked out!
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 09:36:06 GMT
It appears my Slackware Linux 2.0.3 box has been hacked, as I no longer have
access to the root and other accounts. Is there a way for me to regain
control of my system? I've taken it offline for the time being until I can
resolve this issue.
Thanks - Please reply via email
- Dave -
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From: "Poison Ivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 00:50:25 -0800
>>The US antitrust laws are designed to protect consumers, not competitors.
>>Has the consumer been harmed? Of course not.
>
>Of course not???
>
>1) Consumers are overpaying for software, because their's no competition
>allowing prices to be artificially high.
In what sense are consumers overpaying for software? Most consumers get
Win98 for about $90 (the retail upgrade price). If I remember right, OEMs
pay about $70. Compared to most popular software, this is pretty darn cheap.
Especially considering that an OS enables the user to run all his other
software.
I think I would pay up to $500 for a PC desktop operating system that let me
run all the software I wanted to run. I would be pretty pissed off to pay
that much, but I would grudgingly do it. A $90 OS (like Win98) is a good
deal.
So I suspect Microsoft is keeping the price of Windows artificially *low*.
The low prices are how Microsoft maintains its monopoly. Artificially low
prices make for very happy consumers, but competing OS producers obviously
hate it.
>I'm sure there were consumers who loved Standard Oil, just cause it was
>great to be driving a car.
Standard Oil is a great example of a monopoly that should have been left
alone. Its market share had fallen sharply, thanks to aggressive
competition, *before* the anti-trust laws were put into effect. The
government tried to fix a problem that was already fixing itself. The SO
breakup turned out to be a ridiculously expensive burden on business with no
benefit to consumers whatsoever. Government intervention at its very worst.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Floyd Davidson)
Subject: Re: restarting apps without rebooting
Date: 9 Jan 1999 08:44:52 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Juergen Heinzl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>... and the only service that comes to mind you cannot just stop
>and restart, even if by killing it, is init and there ...
>telinit q
>... will do the job.
Actually you can kill init and restart it to do the job! You
just kill it, and it will do the restart by itself.
Floyd
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From: Yves Guerin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 98/Linux install partition question
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 16:11:33 -0500
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Hello,
Buy the partition magic program or do it with fdisk from Linux distrib
About Fat32: Linux will format the partition that he needs and format it
on ext2 filesystem so make a partition for Linux before to go
Yves
Kaustav Bhattacharya wrote:
> Hi,
> I have a 10Gb FAT32 hard disk with Win98 on it. I'm going to purchase
> Red Hat 5.2 in about two hours. I wanted to ask before I bought 5.2 if
> when I purchase it, will the installation CD allow me to easily
> partition my 10Gb HD without destroying my Win98 data? i.e. can I
> install Linux onto a FAT32 disk and be safe in mind that Win98 will
> continue working after Linux is installed? Or do I have to backup the
> Win98 bits, format the entire HD, partition it into two and then copy
> back the Win98 stuff and then install Linux onto the second partition?
>
> Kozzey
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: NOSPAM in addresses..
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 19:24:58 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My opinion remains unchanged. These activities do nothing to reduce
> the spam levels nor to end the activities of spammers. I look forward
> to the day that news servers are configured to require a correct
> return address, just as mail servers now are.
How about a happy medium. The purpose of putting nospam in your return
address is to keep from getting spam. I think a standard of
<nospam.realuserid@realdomain> would meet this requirement. Everyone would
know who sent the message. But just addiing this to a mailing list would not
work. It should then be illegal to remove the nospam prefix for purposes of
adding the user id to a mailing list.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Potter)
Subject: Re: Copying linux system....
Date: 8 Jan 1999 20:36:54 GMT
[Posted and mailed]
James enlightened this group thus:
> Can anyone tell me if it's possible to copy a whole linux partition with
> a recursive cp?
>
> I have run out of disk space on my linux partition and want to move it
> to a larger empty partition.
>
> Is there a good way of doing this? Or are there programs which can
> resize a extfs partition?
>
> Thanks for any help,
> James.
Don't use cp, use tar instead. Here is a script I wrote to do it. Mount the
new partition at /mnt first.
#!/bin/sh
# Create a complete backup of / on /mnt
cp -p /* /mnt
mkdir /mnt/cdrom /mnt/mnt /mnt/proc /mnt/tmp
chmod 1777 /mnt/tmp
mkdir /mnt/bin /mnt/boot /mnt/dev /mnt/etc /mnt/home /mnt/lib /mnt/opt\
/mnt/root /mnt/sbin /mnt/usr /mnt/var
(cd /bin && tar cf - . ) | (cd /mnt/bin && tar xvfp -)
(cd /boot && tar cf - . ) | (cd /mnt/boot && tar xvfp -)
(cd /dev && tar cf - . ) | (cd /mnt/dev && tar xvfp -)
(cd /etc && tar cf - . ) | (cd /mnt/etc && tar xvfp -)
(cd /home && tar cf - . ) | (cd /mnt/home && tar xvfp -)
(cd /lib && tar cf - . ) | (cd /mnt/lib && tar xvfp -)
(cd /opt && tar cf - . ) | (cd /mnt/opt && tar xvfp -)
(cd /root && tar cf - . ) | (cd /mnt/root && tar xvfp -)
(cd /sbin && tar cf - . ) | (cd /mnt/sbin && tar xvfp -)
(cd /usr && tar cf - . ) | (cd /mnt/usr && tar xvfp -)
(cd /var && tar cf - . ) | (cd /mnt/var && tar xvfp -)
Make sure that this gets all the directories that you have on your system.
Now you must copy your kernel to a floppy so you can boot:
cat /vmlinuz > /dev/fd0
rdev /dev/fd0 /dev/new_partition
Edit the new fstab, which will be at /mnt/etc/fstab.
Boot off of the floppy, edit /etc/lilo.conf, and run lilo.
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Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 10:43:10 +0000
From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux: Fight for survival or on victory march?
You've never played half-life have you?
John Morris wrote:
> >I admit that playing games on Linux is less than exciting.
>
> I don't now much abt computers but am abt to try
> Linux soon.
>
> I just don't understand why anyone would want to
> play a game on ANY operating system tho?? Why not
> use a dedicated device like a Sony Playstation??
>
> Since I do not play games anyway... am I missing
> something here? <G>
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