Linux-Misc Digest #567, Volume #18 Mon, 11 Jan 99 09:13:12 EST
Contents:
2nd Login ("Sean Connolly")
Re: Help connecting to the Net using Minicom with RedHat ("Paul Davies")
Observations and reservations over BeOS compared to Linux (Kaustav Bhattacharya)
Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers (David Kastrup)
KDE and Keymappings HELP!!! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: What the f@#$ck is wrong with SSC ??? (MikeP)
Need webmaster for icmpinfo.darkelf.net (A Dark Elf)
Re: ATi Rage Fury (Kaustav Bhattacharya)
Linux UG in Singapore ? (Samuel Aw)
Re: mandrake ("christian")
linuxberg: wow (Navindra Umanee)
help needed: install Oracle v8 failed: get_platform unknown ("christian")
xdm respawning too fast (Cameron Edwards)
Re: Linux and OCR software (Mark Forsyth)
NNTP error ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
kde and ppp problems (Francesc Guasch)
Re: [Fwd: >>>matrox millinium g200 & Xconfigurator<<<] (Alan McLean)
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From: "Sean Connolly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 2nd Login
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 10:42:20 -0000
Why in RH 5.2 does the system close a telnet session if you try to login as
a different user at the command prompt ?.
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From: "Paul Davies" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help connecting to the Net using Minicom with RedHat
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 23:26:55 -0800
I tried using the network configuration tool as you describe and also
checked the PPP set up with the Red Hat manual. The connection keeps
terminating itself though. Any reasons for this?
Thanks
Paul
David Efflandt wrote in message ...
>On Sat, 9 Jan 1999 15:51:10 -0800, Paul Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>I have been having problems connecting my Redhat 5.2 workstation to the
>>Internet.
>>
>>I am using Minicom and the following happens:
>>
>>I dial in with ATDT number.
>>
>>The connection with my ISP is acknowledged and I get a prompt asking me
for
>>my login and password.
>>
>>The ISP then responds with my IP address indicating that the connection
was
>>successful.
>>
>>I then get the prompt, Protocol:
>>
>>I enter PPP
>>
>>After this a whole bunch of wierd symbols appears. When I try to access
the
>>Net,none of my Internet programs (FTP, Netscape recognise any of the URLs
>>and the connection terminates itself after a couple of minutes)
>
>The weird characters are PPP starting on the other end, but you don't
>mention starting it on your end.
>
>If you 'startx' as root, you will find an icon in the control panel for
>network configuration. All you have to do is set up a PPP connection and
>you won't even need minicom. Try PAP first without any script. If that
>does not work, then make one with PAP unchecked and edit the resulting
>script to include your "Protocol:" and "PPP" expect/response strings.
>
>--
>David Efflandt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>http://www.xnet.com/~efflandt/
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From: Kaustav Bhattacharya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Observations and reservations over BeOS compared to Linux
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 10:53:43 +0000
Reply-To: k, dot, bhattacharya, at, bbc, dot, co, dot, uk
I am about to take the plung and go for Linux (redhat5.2) this week.
I've been a long time Solaris user so I'm familiar with the 'Unix'
environment. Admitedly, most of my real productivity work is done on
Win98, yes, well, enough said about that *cough* ;-) I have been
reading recently about BeOS 4.0. It's merits seems very admirable.
It's touted at a multi-media OS. However, when I read through the list
of rather primitive, user unfriendly command line twittery available for
it, I wonder, what's so great about it? So, it's multi-threaded, so,
it's real time, so, it's so fast. What use is that without decent
software? There are zero integrated and fully featured (even if you
don't use 80% of those features) software for BeOS. I know of various
'attempts' of integrated or even stand alone WP/SP/DB/Pres apps for
BeOS, but they're way off the mark compared to Win98/NT apps and even
Linux. This is where I get to the point of my posting. After careful
consideration, I came to the conclusion that even weirdness like Acorn's
32bit RISC OS computer systems have MORE and far better software (esp in
terms of business critical productivity tools) on it compared to what's
available for BeOS4.0. And ultimately, at the end of the day, it has to
be said that Linux blows BeOS out of the sky when it comes to software.
I've always maintained that old adage that use whatever is best for the
task at hand. Sometimes it will be Win98, sometimes it will be WinNT,
other times it will be *gasp* an Acorn, and other times it will be
Linux. I've never found an end-all-and-be all OS with absolutely every
conceivable piece of software to meet my needs, however, in the game of
cat 'n mouse, when we are talking real world, full of substance and
useful creative software, I'm sorry, but Linux flattens BeOS in any
arguement. Who would agree or disagree with me, and why? I'm eager to
hear your arguements as a newbie entrant into the Linux world.
Regards,
Kozzey
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From: David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
Date: 11 Jan 1999 11:15:03 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mayor Of R'lyeh) writes:
> On 10 Jan 1999 15:52:07 -0500, Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> chose
> to bless us all with this bit of wisdom:
>
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mayor Of R'lyeh) writes:
> >> Windows is priced in line with other commercial OSs.
> >
> >redhat linux goes for $50 from the redhat people. that is a
> >*commercial* (although not proprietary) OS.
>
> You're geting ripped off. My local Best Buys has it for $37.
> The difference is that is has almost no developement costs. Its done
> by volunteers.
Which must be the reason they have use for investments from Intel and
IBM, to name a few. And must be the reason they are now relocating
because their 60+ staff needs more room. And it must be the reason
that they have a staff of 6 alone working feaverishly on GNOME
development. And that must be the reason their RPM package manager is
currently the de facto stadard for Linux.
It has large development costs, but it can also profit from a lot of
previous development. But, of course, Microsoft could do so as well
by taking FreeBSD or other BSD code and just putting it in their
software. In fact, some stuff from the TCP networking and others *is*
done that way.
The main reason they don't reuse more freely available code is that
that way they would be way to close to industry standards, and if they
would be doing a standard operating system they would have to compete
with others. And competition would be the death to Windows, as it is
way below par.
> Red Hat doesn't have anywhere near the investment in Linux that
> Microsoft has in Windows.
Much of the investments in Microsoft is in technologies that would
have existed already but that are avoided in order not to allow
competition.
--
David Kastrup Phone: +49-234-700-5570
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fax: +49-234-709-4209
Institut f�r Neuroinformatik, Universit�tsstr. 150, 44780 Bochum, Germany
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable,linux.redhat.misc,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: KDE and Keymappings HELP!!!
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 09:34:31 GMT
I have KDE installed on my notebook and I am trying to get KOffice to install
on it, I know there are three parts to the installation yet I am having
trouble with the final part in the Koffice directory I cant find a make file
or a config file dont know what to do Please help any suggestions greatly
received
Thanks
Toby Coleridge
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From: MikeP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What the f@#$ck is wrong with SSC ???
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 11:25:55 +0000
J H Lusty wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I apologize for the language in the header, but I am at the end of my
> teather with SSC, the company who supposedly "manages" the
> distribution of the LJ and associated products.
>
> For four months now, I have been trying to get a two-year subscription
> to the LJ through SSC.
>
> I emailed them all my details, credit card # etc.
>
> All that has happened is that I have had my credit card debited for a
> one year subscription (not two years as asked), and no magazine !
>
> The "six to eight week lead time" which SSC mentions has long since
> passed.
>
> They do not answer my emails at all.
>
> What should I do ?
>
> In the first instance, I am going to attempt to recover my money via
> my bank, but all I really want is the subscription.
>
> I also ordered the back copies of LJ on the two CD's that SSC
> advertise on their Web Site, with the same non-result.
>
> Anybody else having problems ?
>
> John Lusty
> Senior Software Engineer - Altech Defense Systems, Cape Town, SOUTH
> AFRICA
I subscribed via the web page, and I received my first issue in 4 weeks.
Then again, I also live in the states.
--
Mike
"What, me worry?" -A.Newman-
Error: REALITY.SYS corrupted! Reboot Universe <Y/n>
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Crossposted-To: comp.security.misc,comp.security.misc
From: A Dark Elf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Need webmaster for icmpinfo.darkelf.net
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 05:30:50 -0600
Hello,
The http://icmpinfo.darkelf.net site has been idle for quite a while and I
would like someone to take the place of webmaster to update it.
You should be:
- Non biased, covering at least Unix, Mac and Win
- Sticking to subject, covering new patches, new security features, and
not new tricks to crack you're ennemy's system
- Available, because you need to update the site constantly, every week at
least
Those interested should mail me back..
Patrick Lambert
======================================================================
DarkElf Network SysAdmin http://www.darkelf.net
Comp Sci Student Montreal University http://www.jsp.umontreal.ca
UnderNet.Org Operator http://www.undernet.org
Check the main resource for developers at www.fastethernet.net
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From: Kaustav Bhattacharya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ATi Rage Fury
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 10:40:06 +0000
Reply-To: k, dot, bhattacharya, at, bbc, dot, co, dot, uk
I see references to MAC64 a lot when talking about ATi cards. When I
look up my ATi cards info in Win98's control panel-->system applet, I am
cold that I have a ATi 3D Rage Pro AGPx2. Am I to assume correctly that
the chipset used in this card is a form or varient of a Mac64 chipset?
And to put this posting into context, I'm posting this due to concerns
about graphics card compatibility with Linux when I install it later
this week; just incase someone thought this was a Win98 posting in a
Linux group *takes cover and hides* ;-) Anyway, better go read up about
FIPS2. Flippin partitions, can't live with em, can't live without em :)
hehe.
Kozzey
P.S Sam E. Trenholme, thanks for the URL! Very useful.
"Sam E. Trenholme" wrote:
>
> >I'm about to buy an ATi Rage Fury graphics card for my PC.
>
> You can get up-to-date compatibility information here:
>
> http://www.xfree86.org
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From: Samuel Aw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux UG in Singapore ?
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 08:30:47 +0800
Is there a Linux User Group in Singapore ?
Please email me "wihout the NOSPAM!!!!"
Thank you
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From: "christian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mandrake
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 09:49:10 GMT
Have a look to www.linux-mandrake.com
I'm using mandrake 5.1 and I m very happy with it.
Christian
Rick Knebel a �crit dans le message ...
>Hi,
>
>I just read about another disrto of linux called Mandrake.
>It is RedHat 5.2 with kde integrated into it.
>
>Anyone try this yet?
>
>Thanks
>Rick
>
>
>--
>Rick Knebel
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Navindra Umanee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: linuxberg: wow
Date: 11 Jan 1999 11:41:44 GMT
This TUCOWS site for Linux is pretty neat: http://www.linuxberg.com/
-N.
--
"These download files are in Microsoft Word 6.0 format. After unzipping,
these files can be viewed in any text editor, including all versions of
Microsoft Word, WordPad, and Microsoft Word Viewer." [Microsoft quote]
< http://www.cs.mcgill.ca/~navindra/editors/ >
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From: "christian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: help needed: install Oracle v8 failed: get_platform unknown
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 10:05:20 GMT
During Installation of oracle v8 under Linux Mandrake 5.1 (RedHat 5.1), i
got this:
-qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq O/S Error
qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq^
x lqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqk
x
x x Error during action 'Creating ntcontab.o'. x
x
x x x
x
x xCommand: make -f /home/oracle/product/8.0.5/network/lib/ins_network.mk x
x
x xntcontab.o x
x
x x x
x
x x(if [ "compile" = "compile" ] ;then \ x
x
x x /home/oracle/product/8.0.5/bin/gennttab > ntcontab.c ;\ x
x
x x cc -c ntcontab.c ;\ x
x
x x rm -f /home/oracle/product/8.0.5/lib/ntcontab.o ;\ x
x
x x mv ntcontab.o /home/oracle/product/8.0.5/lib ;fi) x
x
x x/home/oracle/product/8.0.5/bin/gennttab: x
x
x x/home/oracle/product/8.0.5/bin/get_platform: Aucun fichier ou r�pertoirex
x
x xde ce type. x
x
x xntcontab.c:7: sys/types.h: Aucun fichier ou r�pertoire de ce type. x
x
x mqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqj
x
I don't understand why it speaks about NT (NTcontab.o) .
Is there a misfit between NT an Linux in some script?
Did someone succed in installation of this product?
Is this bug known?
Do Someone knows a workaround?
Any help would be appreciated.
Christian Coisnon ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: Cameron Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: xdm respawning too fast
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 23:38:39 +1100
I recently removed the -nodaemon option from the xdm entry in my
/etc/inittab file.
Now I get this error:
INIT: Id "x" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes
What does this mean, and how can I fix it?
Is there any advantage of running xdm as a daemon?
Thanks in advance,
Cameron.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Forsyth)
Subject: Re: Linux and OCR software
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 20:49:43 +1059
On 9 Jan 1999 20:13:00 GMT, John Girash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Mark Forsyth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>: Location: /pub/software/Linux/Applications
>: FILE -rw-r--r-- 2771856 May 21 1997 xocr_4_1.english.tar.gz
>
>Yes, but has anyone actually gotten XOCR to _work_?
>
Hmmmm. Yes marginally. I was rather hoping some rather more enlightened soul than
myself ( ie. you ) would encourage me by getting it going no problems. I've been
mucking about with it with a text fax sent from another system. OCR is easy and
accurate
with FaxWorks under OS/2. XOCR OTH produces crap. But at least it produces. Much
better than three weeks ago...:) I'm hoping that the problem is just something
fundamental that I've failed to grasp.
MArk F...
>--
>"don't listen when you're told / about the best days in your life : Spirit of
> a useless old expression, it means / passing time until you die." : the West
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -- John Girash --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://skyron.harvard.edu/ --
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Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 15:00:32 +1300
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: NNTP error
Can anyone tell me why I can't post anything to this newsgroup (or any
other) using NS Communicator 4.07 under Linux (I get the message: "A
News (NNTP) error occurred. Feedrule: Last matched rule was a reject") -
all gobbledegook to me I'm afraid. I am posting this using Communicator
4.5 under Windows NT 4.0.
Would be grateful for any ideas :-)
Peter Rodriguez
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From: Francesc Guasch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: kde and ppp problems
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:17:38 +0100
Since I installed kde I cannot connect through ppp.
The connections starts and the modem hungs in a minute.
When kde isn't loaded ppp connects fine.
What's up ?
--
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.etsetb.upc.es/~frankie
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o o _ ) Errors, like straws, upon the surface flow;
Y (_, (__(Ssss He who would search for pearls must dive below.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alan McLean)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: [Fwd: >>>matrox millinium g200 & Xconfigurator<<<]
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 13:51:30 GMT
brent stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Alan McLean wrote:
> >David Fox wrote:
> >> <snip>
> >> No, for a redhat-5.2 system you should go to updates.redhat.com and
> >> get the XFree86 packages from there.
> >>
> >
> >For a trouble free installation do what David said.
> >
> >You don't need to download all of the X rpms. The
> >following are all you should need
> >
> > XFree86-3.3.3-1
> > XFree86-libs-3.3.3-1
> > XFree86-75dpi-fonts-3.3.3-1
> > XFree86-devel-3.3.3-1
> > XFree86-VGA16-3.3.3-1
> > XFree86-XF86Setup-3.3.3-1
> > XFree86-SVGA-3.3.3-1
> > <snip>
>
> I got it working just by downloading the SVGA server
> mgag200 is the chipset, I believe
This may work. Note, I did say for a _trouble_free_
installation do the above. Keep in mind XFree86-3.3.3
is linked with the libs from XFree86-libs-3.3.3 and
_not_ the libs from XFree86-libs-3.3.2. This may be
a non-issue, but it may also give you instability if
certain changes have been made to the new libs.
In general, it is not a good idea to mix packages from
different releases.
Also, the original poster is having a hard time
producing his XF86Config file. He _needs_ the
XF86Config/VGA16 3.3.3 to create it, as again the
G200 was _not_ supported in 3.3.2.
-amcl
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