Linux-Misc Digest #577, Volume #18 Tue, 12 Jan 99 02:13:12 EST
Contents:
Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers (Johan Kullstam)
Re: IBCS & kernel 2.2 -- is it built in? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Cutting and Pasting in X windows (Bruno Barberi Gnecco)
Re: Which version of Xfree86 3.3.3 should I download? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Which version of Xfree86 3.3.3 should I download? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: sendmail and smbd are SO slow on boot (Frank Sweetser)
Re: Cutting and Pasting in X windows (Rob Mahurin)
Re: INFO: compatibility between win95 & linux (Andreas Mohr)
Linux driver for Cannon MultiPASS C2500 - Help ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Staroffice Lib problem (Fx Fraipont)
Re: Leafnode - few articles (Dale Pontius)
Re: Stable Word Processor (Rod Smith)
Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers (Leslie Mikesell)
Re: Mounting FAT32 filesystem, newbie help (Rob Mahurin)
Re: Acessing binary file from the code without open(argv[0] ..) (John Reiser)
Can't setup printer ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: hard drive space (garv)
Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers (Daniel Pead)
Re: Linux, Unix or Unix alike? (Sean Yamamoto)
RPM & selber kompilierte Software ("Beat Rupp")
Re: rpm 5.005_?? ? (Pascal Rigaux)
Re: Cutting and Pasting in X windows ("Paul Davies")
Re: system lockup (William Boyle)
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Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 11 Jan 1999 17:53:18 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mayor Of R'lyeh) writes:
> On 10 Jan 1999 22:57:54 -0500, Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> chose
> to bless us all with this bit of wisdom:
> >for all the investment microsoft has in windows, it is curious how
> >poor the quality is in comparison to gnu/linux. sure windows has more
> >applications written for it, but as far as operating systems go, they
> >may be compared by rational people on their features.
>
> This si the heart of the matter. Most people don't compare OSs. They
> look to see what apps they want and find something to run it. You can
> have the technically best operating system in the world but if it
> doesn't have the software I want out for it I'm not going to use it.
ah, this is remarkable! you freely admit that quality of the OS
itself is *not* the driver behind choice of OS, it's what is available
for that OS. thus you admit the possibility of market failure!
microsoft windows can be poor yet still a dominant OS.
microsoft windows isn't any good in itself, it's merely the existance
of applications which run on windows which confer the value to
windows. the existance of applications is external to ms-windows.
ms-windows need only be good enough to support them. the free market
fails to produce the optimum. it fails to produce quality.
we see that for operating system software the free market does not
produce optimum results. how else to explain the ubiquitousness of
windows in the face of outrageously bad quality. how else to explain
the *existance* of linux? for if the free market worked in software
as in other goods, how could you give it away for free and still
derive value from it?
> > for all the
> >money microsoft has invested, it is quite amusing that a hobbyist
> >operating system would even be considered in the same breath.
>
> Not really. I've seen how industrial products are designed-its just a
> big mess. Someone who won't shutup can get his dream feature included
> no matter how irrational it is. I imagine software at a large company
> like Microsoft isn't much different. With Linux, everybody can stuff
> whatever they want into it . Its easy to see how that would appeal to
> the computer professional/enthusiast crowd.
nod. linux isn't all that great either. it just suits my purposes
better than microsoft's offering. the only reason i bitch is that my
employer forces me to use a tool (windows) which does not suit my
needs.
--
Johan Kullstam [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Don't Fear the Penguin!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: IBCS & kernel 2.2 -- is it built in?
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 23:47:34 GMT
Just before high-siding [EMAIL PROTECTED] shrieked:
: Is IBCS built-in to kernel 2.2? Is it a package I need to
: download from somewhere. I need to get sco binaries from
: a work machine up and running on my home machine, so I can
: do development.
Never mind. I found it.
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From: Bruno Barberi Gnecco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cutting and Pasting in X windows
Date: 11 Jan 1999 10:10:02 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Paul Davies wrote:
> I'm using Redhat 5.2
>
> How does one cut and paste text from one X window to another?
Select with the left mouse button to copy, and paste pressing the
middle mouse button.
--
Did you *REALLY* check that interface between the chair and the keyboard?
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[I'm running Linux] -=-=- Electric Engineering at Politechnic School, USP
Check my homepage at http://graphx.home.ml.org * C, 3D graphics, and more
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Which version of Xfree86 3.3.3 should I download?
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 05:09:53 GMT
Thanks for your help, it is much appreciated.
In article <776fsb$1s9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Ed Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ftp to ftp://updates.redhat.com/5.2/i386
>
> download:
> XFree86-100dpi-fonts-3.3.3-1.i386.rpm
> XFree86-3.3.3-1.i386.rpm
> XFree86-75dpi-fonts-3.3.3-1.i386.rpm
> XFree86-SVGA-3.3.3-1.i386.rpm
> XFree86-devel-3.3.3-1.i386.rpm
> XFree86-libs-3.3.3-1.i386.rpm
>
> test them:
> rpm -K --nopgp *.rpm
>
> install them (*NOT* when you are in X)
> rpm -Uvh XFree86*.rpm
>
> assuming you have a decent /etc/X11/XF86Config file:
> this should do it...
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > Help!
> >
> > I am very new to Linux and I have discovered that my video card (STB
nVIDIA
> > TNT) requires Xfree86 3.3.3 in order to run correctly on my Intel box. When
> > I attempted to find the appropriate file to download from xfree86.org's FTP
> > server, I was given these 2 versions to pick from:
> >
> > * binaries/Linux-ix86-libc5/ binaries for Linux on Intel hardware
> > (Most Linux users should use the Linux-ix86
> > binaries. They are for ELF libc 5.x. The
older
> > a.out libc 4.x is no longer supported. If you
> > have libc 6 (GNU libc) you should use the
> > Linux-ix86-glibc binaries.)
> > * binaries/Linux-ix86-glibc/ binaries for Linux on Intel hw (with glibc)
> >
> > Is the file I need one of these, or am I way off? I have Red Hat 5.2. I
> > know I need to use the XF86_SVGA server, but I am lost. If anyone could
help
> > me find the correct file to download I would greatly appreciate it.
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Which version of Xfree86 3.3.3 should I download?
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 05:09:45 GMT
Thanks for your help, it is much appreciated.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Mark Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> > * binaries/Linux-ix86-libc5/ binaries for Linux on Intel hardware
> > * binaries/Linux-ix86-glibc/ binaries for Linux on Intel hw (with glibc)
>
> > Is the file I need one of these, or am I way off? I have Red Hat 5.2. I
> > know I need to use the XF86_SVGA server, but I am lost. If anyone could
help
> > me find the correct file to download I would greatly appreciate it.
>
> RedHat 5 is glibc based, so look in the second directory.
>
> --
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> http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/
> EUFS http://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/filmsoc/
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From: Frank Sweetser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: sendmail and smbd are SO slow on boot
Date: 11 Jan 1999 22:28:12 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris) writes:
> For whatever reason, sendmail takes about 4 minutes to load during
> boot and the smb daemon takes a good 10-15 minutes...it's crazy.
> Any help on these issues would be great.
> (RedHat 5.1 Manhattan, 2.0.35, PCMCIA 3Com Etherlink)
add an entry to /etc/hosts for your fqdn to stop the dns timeouts.
--
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paramount.ind.wpi.edu RedHat 5.2 kernel 2.2.0pre5ac1 i586 | at public servers
The whole history of computers is rampant with cheerleading at best and
bigotry at worst.
-- Larry Wall in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: Rob Mahurin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cutting and Pasting in X windows
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 23:23:48 +0000
Reply-To: robmATmad.scientist.com
Paul Davies wrote:
>
> I don't have a middle mouse button.
>
> Is there an alternative?
on my debian system, you can use XF86Setup (thusly capitalized, was a
bitch to find) to enable 3-button emulation, so that pressing both
buttons at once sends the same signal as a middle press. Don't know if
it's the same way on Red Hat.
Or, you can spend $8 on a 3-button mouse, which is nicer in the long
run.
Rob
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Mohr)
Subject: Re: INFO: compatibility between win95 & linux
Date: 11 Jan 99 13:38:03 GMT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Mohr)
Date: 11 Jan 1999 13:38:03 GMT
Organization: University of Stuttgart, Electrical Eng. Students' Computer Pool
Hassoun ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> hi
> do the win95 applications run on linux?
Yes, at least several of them.
--> www.winehq.com
And *PLEASE* don't crosspost like the devil !!!
Jeeeeez...
I even considered canceling my reply !
--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Linux driver for Cannon MultiPASS C2500 - Help
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 04:14:53 GMT
Does anybody know of a place where I could find linux(Red Hat 5.1) driver for
my Cannon MultiPASS C2500? If yes, please please respond to me at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] also.
Thanks in advance.
Ashwin.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fx Fraipont)
Subject: Staroffice Lib problem
Date: 11 Jan 99 18:53:52 GMT
From: Fx Fraipont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 19:53:52 +0100
Organization: Belgacom Skynet SA/NV
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I have just installed staroffice 5 on my SuSe linux 5.3 system.
Now I can't start X any more : i get the following error message:
>Startx
>/usr/x11r6/bin/xwrapper : error in loading shared libraries.
>usr/i486-linux-lib6/lib/libc.so.6: undefined symbol: -del-debug-impcalls-
It seems that many people share this problem. Does it mean that
installation on SusE is impossible?
How can I solve the problem?
Please help!
fx fraipont
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dale Pontius)
Subject: Re: Leafnode - few articles
Date: 11 Jan 99 17:12:46 GMT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dale Pontius)
Date: 11 Jan 1999 17:12:46 GMT
Organization: IBM Global Services North -- Burlington, Vermont, USA
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In article <c1.2c.2PFXPV$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Thompson) writes:
>
> IIRC, the default behavior is as you describe. But you can
> change that so it will download all new articles since the last
> time you fetch-ed by tweaking one of the config files. I found
> that fetch was just too slow for me so I've left my OS/2 news
> server running instead of using leafnode...
>
I was speaking of group-by-group demand, not the feature to
fetch headers separately.
Dale Pontius
(NOT speaking for IBM)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Stable Word Processor
Date: 12 Jan 1999 04:19:36 GMT
[Posted and mailed]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jesse Pavel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hello,
> I'm planning to change a cluster of Pentium 100MHz/32MB RAM machines in
> my workplace from Windows95 to Linux, but need a stable GUI Word
> Processor for the users who will be migrated. The choices of which I'm
> aware at the moment are Applixware 4.4.1, StarOffice 5.0, and
> WordPerfect 8. The most important thing to me is stability and
> reliability of the word processing component when dealing with documents
> of around 100K-200K of text, and very few pictures, if any. A good
> import/export of ASCII text would be nice, also. The program needs to
> run at a decent speed on the hardware mentioned above, but need not be
> phenomenally efficient. Sorry if this is a common question; and if there
> is a FAQ our there on this topic, I'd appreciate being directed to it.
> Thanks.
Overall, your requirements are pretty minimal, though the machines you
intend to use are getting a bit on the low end by today's standards. This
last fact is probably enough to eliminate StarOffice from consideration;
it's the biggest pig of the common Linux word processors.
Of Applix and WP 8, the latter is probably a bit leaner than the former in
terms of memory, but I've not tried either on a 32MB machine for quite a
while, so I can't be sure of that. WP 8 may also be familiar to some of
your Windows users, and so may have a slight edge there (though Applix is
similar enough in its general principles to other word processors that few
people would have troubles learning it). Both are quite stable in my
experience, though the earlier WP 7 did crash too often for my taste on my
system. Note that the version of WP 8 that's available for download is
missing certain features, such as an equation editor and font installer.
There are also some freeware alternatives to consider, such as Maxwell
(still a bit too crude for serious use) and LyX (a GUI front-end to LaTeX
-- strange for people familiar with Mac/Windows-style word processors,
but stable and quite useable for many purposes).
Overall, I'd say your best bet is probably to try WP 8 and possibly LyX.
If either or both of these suits your purposes, run with it/them. If not,
buy a copy of Applix and see how it fares. Your stated requirements are
pretty basic, so unless you have further needs you've not mentioned,
you'll probably find any of these to be adequate. Even Maxwell might do,
if it's become a bit more stable than it was the last time I tried it, a
few months ago.
--
Rod Smith
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
Date: 11 Jan 1999 18:22:03 -0600
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>ah, this is remarkable! you freely admit that quality of the OS
>itself is *not* the driver behind choice of OS, it's what is available
>for that OS. thus you admit the possibility of market failure!
>microsoft windows can be poor yet still a dominant OS.
Of course - people buy computers to run applications.
>microsoft windows isn't any good in itself, it's merely the existance
>of applications which run on windows which confer the value to
>windows. the existance of applications is external to ms-windows.
>ms-windows need only be good enough to support them.
You make it sound like the existance of the apps is coincidental
but it isn't. Microsoft built an entire division just to write
the apps. Without them, there wouldn't be much point to running
MS-Windows, at least until someone else went to the trouble of
writing apps for it.
Les Mikesell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Rob Mahurin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Mounting FAT32 filesystem, newbie help
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 23:27:20 +0000
Reply-To: robmATmad.scientist.com
Angus wrote:
>
> Can one just type
>
> mkdir /mnt/wherever
>
> to create the mount point
>
> or do we HAVE to edit the fstab file?
>
> i just learned how to do this today myself (to enable me to download stuff,
> since PPP is not working on Linux yet) so i am curious
>
I think that root can mount stuff that's not in /etc/fstab. However,
putting it there lets the system mount it for you, which is probably
what you want.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Reiser)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Acessing binary file from the code without open(argv[0] ..)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 00:33:36 GMT
Here are some approaches which may be related to what you want to do.
Look at /usr/include/elf.h for the layout of an ELF executable file.
In particular, pay close attention to e_phoff, Elf32_Phdr.p_vaddr,
phdr.p_type == PT_LOAD, and AT_PHDR.
Consult the output of "objdump --all-headers a.out", particularly the
Program Header and Section Headers. [There should be a separate
option "objdump --program-header", but there isn't.]
Look at the output of "cat /proc/self/maps", or in general at
/proc/<pid>/maps which is a pseudo-file of text.
The initial stack has some goodies. The filename of the a.out is
stored with its null terminating byte at 0xbffffffc on x86 systems in
stock (unmodified) popular distributions. The stack itself has
pointers to arguments, then a 0, then pointers to environment
variables, then 0, then the AT_* table, then a 0, then the strings for
arguments and environment variables, ..., then the filename of the
a.out.
Example of looking at initial stack:
objdump --file-headers /bin/date
# look for "start address"
gdb /bin/date
b *0x8048b60 # use the actual start address
run
x/40x $esp
x/40x
x/40x
<etc.>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Can't setup printer
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 05:57:44 GMT
I am trying to configure Printer on my PC, but I can't even see lp when I do
cat /proc/devices. I did try put lp=0x378,0 on lilo.conf, but it seem doesn't
work.
Can anybody give me a hand
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (garv)
Subject: Re: hard drive space
Date: 11 Jan 99 20:20:05 GMT
From: garv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 20:20:05 GMT
Nntp-Posting-Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:20:05 PDT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> -> Simple question...how do I get the partition info (i.e. how much free
> -> space do I have) in Linux? RedHat 5.1...thanks!
>
> Just type:
>
> df
>
> at the prompt. It'll also show you which directories are mounted on which
> partitions.
>
> Simeon
And if you type df -h it will report in "human" terms.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Daniel Pead)
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
Date: 11 Jan 99 15:12:46 GMT
From: Daniel Pead <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 15:12:46 +0000
Organization: October Pen
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In article <1999Jan8.153614@ukwit01>, Lack Mr G M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes
> The issue is not whether competitors exist but rather whether MS has
>taken illegal steps to *attempt* to stifle competition. And nothing
>that is happening at the moment or in the future can change whether it
>has committed illegal acts in the past.
>
> Anyway, it is up to the US Justice system to sort this one out.
You can't abuse a dominant position in the market unless the market
first puts you in a dominant position. Microsoft is where it is today
because lots of people who should have known better bought MS-DOS PCs in
favour of technically superior alternatives. One dominant monopoly
(IBM) was replaced with another. The IT industry as a whole has yet to
admit this as a mistake, let alone take steps to stop it happening
again.
There's no point prosecuting Microsoft. If the industry continues to
embrace restrictive, proprietary solutions then its doomed to a
succession of Microsofts. If industry insisted on open, heterogeneous
systems NOW then M$ would be forced to shape up or ship out without any
intervention from the DOJ.
--
Daniel Pead
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sean Yamamoto)
Subject: Re: Linux, Unix or Unix alike?
Date: 11 Jan 99 20:16:32 GMT
From: Sean Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:16:32 -0800
Organization: Sirius Connections
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Accept-Language: en
UNIX is a registered trademark of The Open Group.
Legally speaking, Linux is not UNIX because the source code
tree isn't derived from their tree. You have to pay The Open
Group a license fee in order to adopt the UNIX name officially.
Companies that have paid this fee include: Digital (Compaq),
Sun, IBM, Hewlett-Packard, and Silicon Graphics, among others.
Linux does mimic the form and function of Unix enough so that
for all practical matters, it is Unix. It is not Unix in a
court of law. If you read the documentation on www.linux.org,
you will notice that they rather gingerly call it a "Unix-like"
operating system. Read more about Unix on The Open Group's
web site, www.opengroup.org, if this topic continues to
interest you.
S.
Ben wrote:
>
> I had an argument with one of my teachers about this subject. Is
> Linux a Unix system or a Unix alike system? And what does it take
> to be considered + Unix system?
>
> Thanks
--
Sean Yamamoto If William of Ockham had a
beard,
UNIX Cabalist At Large it wasn't because his razor was
dull.
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From: "Beat.Rupp"@sjpc.org ("Beat Rupp")
Subject: RPM & selber kompilierte Software
Date: 11 Jan 99 19:43:40 GMT
From: "Beat Rupp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 20:43:40 +0100
Organization: Swisscom IP-Plus Internet
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Hallo Leute
Vor langer Zeit mal fragte ich, wie das mit der Ordnung im System und der
RPM-Datenbank aussieht. Den Antworten zufolge ist RPM eine richtig gute
Sache.
In der Zwischenzeit habe ich mir einige Male neue KDE-snapshots sowie andere
Sourcen geholt und kompiliert. Wenn ich so KDE nun komplett vom Suse-eigenen
1.0 auf 1.1 oder aktueller umstelle (bzw. einfach reininstalliere mit make
install), was passiert dann mit der RPM-Datenbank?? Dann sind ja dort drin
falsche Informationen und wenn ich mal mit Yast den KDE l/schen wollte, kEme
das nicht gut heraus. Gibt es da irgendeine Patentl/sung oder vielleicht
eine Funktion, um die RPM-Datenbank wieder dem aktuellen System anzupassen??
Danke schon mal
Beat
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pascal Rigaux)
Subject: Re: rpm 5.005_?? ?
Date: 11 Jan 99 20:02:05 GMT
From: Pascal Rigaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 11 Jan 1999 21:02:05 +0100
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique
Yeoh Yiu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Is there a red hat/intel rpm for a perl 5.005_??
>
> http://www.redhat.com/support/linux-info/pkglist/PByName.html
> lists only perl-5.004-6.
>
go to filewatcher.org, search for perl*005*i386*, you'll find :
ftp://contrib.redhat.com/libc6/i386/
3689k 1998-08-11 i perl-5.005_02-1.i386.rpm ->rh c. i386 gl
Hope it helps, Pixel.
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From: "Paul.Davies"@sjpc.org ("Paul Davies")
Subject: Re: Cutting and Pasting in X windows
Date: 12 Jan 99 02:26:24 GMT
From: "Paul Davies" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 18:26:24 -0800
X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4
I don't have a middle mouse button.
Is there an alternative?
Keith Kaple wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Paul Davies wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> I'm using Redhat 5.2
>>
>> How does one cut and paste text from one X window to another?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Paul
>
>1) swipe the text. --does copy
>2) press the middle mouse button. --pastes buffer
>
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From: William Boyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: system lockup
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 01:13:36 -0500
I suspect that you hit a bug in X which caused this. Other than running
a debuggable version and when it happens hit it with a SIGABRT signal to
cause a core dump for post-mortem debugging, I don't know what to
suggest. This method will at least (hopefully) produce a core file which
will tell us where the X server was when it went into an infinite loop
and what the program state, stack, and global variables were at the
time. This may be enough to help fix the problem in the X server source
code, or to help determine where to set a break point when run in the
debugger in order to trap the bug.
-Bill Boyle
Joe Ringer wrote:
>
> On Thu, 31 Dec 1998 20:36:04 +0100, Eduardo Perez wrote:
> >Joe Ringer wrote:
> >>
> >> After an uptime of 20+ days my system locked up. I was in X playing a game
> >> of cards when the screen, mouse and keyboard all stopped responding. I
> >> couldn't even toggle the leds on my keyboard and wasn't able to get into
> >> another vc or exit X. I was able to telnet in via another box on my home
> >> lan only to find X sucking up cpu cycles on the frozen machine. Killing off
> >> X brought the cpu usage down to ~0 but the system was still frozen locally.
> >> At this point I reset the box and everthing appears to be ok and the logs
> >> don't provide any clues.
> >>
> >> Whats up? Was there anything else I could have done from the remote box?
> >
> >Most probably, one of the programs you were running locked up your
> >console; you just had to kill it.
> >
> >I think it is very significant that someome posts a message whenever
> >Linux locks his computer up. I wouldn't dare do that with MS.
>
> I guess I should have been more explicit, I did kill all the user programs
> prior to killing X. No soap.
>
> I wasn't knocking Linux, just wandering if there was another way out besides
> reset. After receiving a few other replies I don't think there was anything
> but reset, probably a software/hardware glitch?
>
> --
> clear skies, |http://www.erols.com/jringer3/astro1.htm
> Joe |
> |The internet treats censorship like
> |damage and routes around it.
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